FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:22 pm
ken wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2017 12:51 pm
If any person wants to know, see, and understand how a model works in solving all moral problems in Life, then just be prepared to take a good look at yourself. This solution, and it's formula, has only worked with those who are totally and completely honest, and thus truly open. The only other way to find out if this model works is by just being completely open and asking clarifying questions. This later option has not been attempted yet. But I am willing to give the answers, if any person is willing to ask the questions.
Don't be a complete fanny mate. Hand over the formula.
It's either true or it's bollocks, but if it's a mathematical formula it doesn't need an open mind to be true or false.
Just more proof of how assumptions lead human beings so astray from the actual truth.
If you stopped
assuming that your perception of "mathematical formula" is much to do with what I have been talking about here, then you would stop believing that what I am willing to show you is impossible.
How could I make it any clearer? IF YOU WANT ANSWERS, THEN ASK CLARIFYING QUESTIONS.
The brain inside this head has about as much mathematical knowledge as a 5th grader, probably far less if I am really honest with my self. I have stipulated before that I am very simple. I know of no "mathematical formulas" in the sense you are talking about. (If you have noticed here now, that I am also making 'assumptions', in regards to what your perception of 'mathematical formulas' are, which could lead this discussion even further astray. This part is written just for those who might have thought that I had not noticed what I am doing now. The reason for why I am assuming here will become clearer later.)
Anyhow, now back to what it is that you want Me to "hand over". Firstly, if you had taken any notice at all of what has been said then you would have noticed how far you have taken this away from what I have actually been saying. Let us start where you did. You quoted what sciencefan and I wrote,
Science Fan wrote: "What would be the mathematical model that we should use? No one has devised one."
I wrote: [the mathematical model we should use is one for] "100% of the people 100% of the time 100% all over the place. Simple really."
Science fan was/is completely confused about what the words "greatest happiness
overall" means. Science fan, at that time, went on, "Another puzzling aspect about utilitarianism is that no one can do an actual calculation. What would be the mathematical model that we should use? No one has devised one." To which I implied, [the greatest happiness overall is obviously for] 100% of the people 100% of the time 100% all over the place. I had already questioned science fan about who they thought how many would the "greatest happiness overall" be for, of which there was no reply. To Me, obviously "happiness" would be for ALL, and not just some. So the only mathematics I was providing was the numbers in relation to this. The greatest happiness overall IS for ALL people ALL of the time ALL over the place obviously. I actually never thought that would need saying, but I should never assume any thing also.
And, in reply to "No one has devised one [a model] I wrote, "I have. If you stopped making assumptions, then you will stop looking foolish."
The model I have "devised" is only mathematical in the sense that it is for "100% of the people 100% of the time 100% all over the place. If that model IS a
solution for ALL, then it must also be a solution to all of the "world's" problems. Because every solution has a formula, then there must also be a formula for the solution to all of the "world's" problems. The formula to solving all of the "world's" problems is NOT, I repeat, NOT mathematical at all. The formula to ALL of the "world's problems", which by the way is not an accurate picture. The 'world' does not have any problems. The only problems in Life are ALL caused and created by human beings. Anyway, the formula that leads to solving ALL problems IS HOW. Honesty, Openness, and a Willingness to change for the better. There I have just handed over the formula. If you want to know more, then you, hopefully now, know what to do.
Unfortunately previously, you just jumped from 'mathematical model' to 'mathematical formula' because just like science fan you were making assumptions and jumping to conclusions BEFORE any clarification was taking place. I NEVER stated I had a 'mathematical formuala' for any thing. You just jumped to that conclusion.
NOW AGAIN, if you want to know any more answers, then just ask the clarifying questions, from an open perspective.