Sorry, I just don't recall if it was you or someone else who was trying to say Indian production declined during the Raj earlier in the benefits of colonization discussion: viewtopic.php?f=13&t=22730Londoner wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:20 pmSo now you are responding to 'as some claim' as opposed to what anybody actually said.Seleucus wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 5:08 pmThe first thing I'm seeing is Indian national production never declined during the whole period of the Raj as some claim, it grew continuously from 1600 on. I'm also seeing the drain on Indian gross domestic product into British is almost negligible, rarely much more than 1%; considering services rendered it was an extraordinary deal for the Indians. The tiny British civil service was infinitely less corrupt and ostentatious than the Moguls. The comparison of drain with the Dutch Indies which grew to almost 10% is probably totally misleading since the Dutch Cultivation System implemented in the 1830s meant production was exported into the Dutch economy and sold to finance defense, development and administration of the colony. An hour of reading such a vast collection of numbers obviously doesn't do justice, but what I've seen so far totally contradicts the claim that the European colonizers extracted more than they contributed. Furthermore, what is the price of peace, hygiene, linear thinking, fair and efficient courts, electricity, standardized systems of measurement, and so on?
Yes, I speculated months ago it is laziness that prevents you from taking the time to go through articles to mount any serious arguments.I cannot be bothered trying to explain this stuff to you.
The costs were noticed, but the competition of the Great Game and belief in development coming from the moral conscience of the White man prevented Europeans from quitting colonization sooner.So we'll say: OK, colonialism was either a tremendous act of charity, or alternatively an accountancy error, not noticed by the colonizers for centuries.
The irony of your comment! You do realize not a meter has been added in 75 years to the rail lines laid down by the Dutch in what is today Indonesia, that the French lines in Cambodia no longer run, and that nothing much has been built in Africa besides what the Chinese are laying down in East Africa today?And now that the kindly/stupid Europeans have gone, ... the rest of Asia are unable to build railways, educate themselves, defend themselves etc.
Nice article here about how the Nepal-India line is running for the first time this very year, 2017, since the end of colonial times: https://thewire.in/147940/nepal-colonial-era-rail-link/