Doc, I want you to understand the intent of the thread and why a”anonymous” had to be felt rather torn apart. If we are to get any of the benefits of wht Plato understood, we cannot tolerate this abuse. Consider what Plato wrote:Hobbes wrote: The least you could have done would have been to say what the fuck you meant by anonymous in the context of music, You area laying the same silly childish game that Immanuel Can does.: Make ridiculous claims then fails to say what he means by them.
It's no wonder no one takes you seriously.
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Music of the quality being described and when it is perfect helps a person to experience the anonymous in a way impossible for the intellect. That is why I appreciate it because it helps me open to something greater than myself. Those like Harbal and Hobbes seek to degrade it. If the mods allow it then everything Plato and Socrates introduced is meaningless on this forum and is open to its ridicule along with the ridicule of those who seek to discuss it. Then it becomes worthless. Sometimes a person has to take a stand for the good of philosophy and those with a love of wisdom.If men learn this, it will implant forgetfulness in their souls; they will cease to exercise memory because they rely on that which is written, calling things to remembrance no longer from within themselves, but by means of external marks. What you have discovered is a recipe not for memory, but for reminder. And it is no true wisdom that you offer your disciples, but only its semblance, for by telling them of many things without teaching them you will make them seem to know much, while for the most part they know nothing, and as men filled, not with wisdom, but with the conceit of wisdom, they will be a burden to their fellows." ― Plato, Phaedrus