Being a lazy **** is not an excuse. I don't give a rat's arse about how much it fucking costs, and I don't give a toss about the Art's Council and the trappings of the Art Establishment. I know what a masterpiece is to me, and I don't give a fart for you bullshit pseudo-art inverted class snobbery that you would drop in a heartbeat if you were awarded an Art's Council Grant, because the type of shite you make is exactly what gives the art establishment a hard-on.Pluto wrote:The artwork as masterpiece where the artist has put in time is a mirror commodity of the capitalist system in which the artist resides. Art is more than the system in which it finds itself and so plays other games which do not fall into the systems trap of subsumption. Hard work shows itself in many different forms. A work which houses the values of the system in which it is made is not art. If! That system is corrupted and unethical.
The concept of masterpiece is a bourgeois notion of class differentiation
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Not so, my work is too anti establishment to as yet be recognised as art by the body that has the power to deem what is and isn't. My work bows to no art grant or council, I have come too far to sell it short and make it into a promotional tool for the benefit of corrupted art institutions. The work must go beyond the horizons set by power and its institutions. And not promote these institutions. So when the MOMA say, we want to show a number of your works, as a revolutionary artist, I must say no way, go fuck yourself. Only from this position would something truly great start to show itself.
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Well your work isn't elitist but it does qualify on the other criterion.Pluto wrote:The concept of masterpiece is baloney and elitist
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Good for you, Pluto, for not selling out. Stick to your principles and never learn to draw.Pluto wrote: I must say no way, go fuck yourself. Only from this position would something truly great start to show itself.
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Never learn to draw? Do you think the drawing below is made by someone who cannot draw?
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No, your art is of the right type, but just too throw away. it's absurd to call it anti-establishent.Pluto wrote:Not so, my work is too anti establishment to as yet be recognised as art by the body that has the power to deem what is and isn't.
There is nothing revolutionary about your work. You are just kidding yourself. I've seen much better crap at the Tate, that is also lazy and limited in content.My work bows to no art grant or council, I have come too far to sell it short and make it into a promotional tool for the benefit of corrupted art institutions. The work must go beyond the horizons set by power and its institutions. And not promote these institutions. So when the MOMA say, we want to show a number of your works, as a revolutionary artist, I must say no way, go fuck yourself. Only from this position would something truly great start to show itself.
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Now you are just taking the pissPluto wrote:Never learn to draw? Do you think the drawing below is made by someone who cannot draw?
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A drawing superior in all respects.
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Well, it's always good to get feedback no matter who it's from. The towers holding hands is not bad, funny actually, which is an odd thing to be as it's such a serious subject. The Belgian artist Luc Tuymans made this image in response to the attacks:
http://www.saatchigallery.com/artists/a ... l_Life.htm
http://www.saatchigallery.com/artists/a ... l_Life.htm
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It did not take you long to U-turn. Why are you posting material from the evil and corrupt art establishment?Pluto wrote:Well, it's always good to get feedback no matter who it's from. The towers holding hands is not bad, funny actually, which is an odd thing to be as it's such a serious subject. The Belgian artist Luc Tuymans made this image in response to the attacks:
http://www.saatchigallery.com/artists/a ... l_Life.htm
The holding hands is something done by the artist with friends on a daily basis. It reflects the artistic personal culture. It is not funny. You misinterpreted.
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Things aren't that simple.Why are you posting material from the evil and corrupt art establishment?
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hypocritePluto wrote:Things aren't that simple.Why are you posting material from the evil and corrupt art establishment?
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Oh look you best piece of work - and in your favourite colour too.Pluto wrote:Dinosaurhypocrite
My mistake - this probably took more effort than what you call art.
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Ha, now you're using your brains dino. My shit is better than yours.