Re: Music
Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:53 pm
So, how about that philosophical premise that precision is the inherent essence of music, which is why good synthesized remixes manage to squeak by.
For the discussion of all things philosophical, especially articles in the magazine Philosophy Now.
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That's quite the gong. However, did you see the YouTube video of its owner's full drum kit? (here - https://youtu.be/bwCD9JfTpB4). According to the video it's the largest kit in the world.Greta wrote:Yes, Sting made some superior pop music.Walker wrote:Wonderful soprano sax and plucking of strings, along with a percussion solo and others, but what’s that alien noise in the middle, when he sings alien?
STING - Englishman In New York
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPCLDAxDm-s
By "alien sound" do you mean the small gongs at the start and end of the 80s style drums after the soprano solo? The cymbal family can be surprising, eg. this incredible symphonic gong https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Sj8DvH0l-g
I never realized how much "jello-ish" movement there was of the metal. Makes sense though as the sound of a cymbal shimmers and waves. Pretty cool vid.Greta wrote: Another less spectacular example. Roger Waters created really effective cymbal effects in Pink Floyd's Saucerful of Secrets (their Pompeii version is transcendent IMO).
How do they sound so amazing? Look at what physically happens to a struck cymbal in slow motion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpoanOlb3-w]
Obviously compensating for being a mediocre drummerseeds wrote: That's quite the gong. However, did you see the YouTube video of its owner's full drum kit? (here - https://youtu.be/bwCD9JfTpB4). According to the video it's the largest kit in the world.
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Just one of a couple of minor logistical issuesseeds wrote:I used to own and engineer a small 16 track, analog recording studio back in the 80s and 90s. I can't imagine what a nightmare it would be to mic that monstrosity. I guess you would cover the kick, snare, and hi-hat and then catch the rest with a few overheads suspended from a crane or something.
Greta, are you saying that the alleged 813 pieces in the above mentioned drum kit is 808 more pieces than you yourself needed to make actual music? (Are you counting your sticks? - because that would make it a 7 piece kit.)Greta wrote:Just one of a couple of minor logistical issuesseeds wrote:I used to own and engineer a small 16 track, analog recording studio back in the 80s and 90s. I can't imagine what a nightmare it would be to mic that monstrosity. I guess you would cover the kick, snare, and hi-hat and then catch the rest with a few overheads suspended from a crane or something.
Most times I played a 4 or 5 piece.
Yup, a YT and three Soundcloud channels. All amateur fun aside from some old recordings of my old bands bumbling around the traps in the 80s and 90s. This is the most updated one, mostly instrumental home recordings with an old friend (and one of my cohorts in in the 80s as above) https://soundcloud.com/in-the-house-5. Do you have any recordings online?seeds wrote:Greta, are you saying that the alleged 813 pieces in the above mentioned drum kit is 808 more pieces than you yourself needed to make actual music? (Are you counting your sticks? - because that would make it a 7 piece kit.)Greta wrote:Just one of a couple of minor logistical issuesseeds wrote:I used to own and engineer a small 16 track, analog recording studio back in the 80s and 90s. I can't imagine what a nightmare it would be to mic that monstrosity. I guess you would cover the kick, snare, and hi-hat and then catch the rest with a few overheads suspended from a crane or something.
Most times I played a 4 or 5 piece.
Kidding aside, what style of music do you play, and what was the name(s) of the group(s) you played in? Any recordings?
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Yeah baby.Greta wrote: https://soundcloud.com/in-the-house-5.
Fantastic gong! Can’t stop laughing, the delighted kind.Greta wrote:Yes, Sting made some superior pop music.Walker wrote:Wonderful soprano sax and plucking of strings, along with a percussion solo and others, but what’s that alien noise in the middle, when he sings alien?
STING - Englishman In New York
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPCLDAxDm-s
By "alien sound" do you mean the small gongs at the start and end of the 80s style drums after the soprano solo? The cymbal family can be surprising, eg. this incredible symphonic gong https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Sj8DvH0l-g
Another less spectacular example. Roger Waters created really effective cymbal effects in Pink Floyd's Saucerful of Secrets (their Pompeii version is transcendent IMO).
How do they sound so amazing? Look at what physically happens to a struck cymbal in slow motion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpoanOlb3-w
The "bloop" sound sounds like a keyboard that plays all the upbeats of the passage, including under the lyric "alien".[/quote]Walker wrote:Fantastic gong! Can’t stop laughing, the delighted kind.
Maybe it was some synthesized sound. With Sting, the gentleman in New York, every time he says the word “alien” the alien sound is in the background. It could be mistaken for the water drop sound, which can be found on youtube, of course. But the organic water drop sound is clearer. It’s the clarity that makes it startling. Perhaps Sting’s lyrics intended the sound of an alien moving about, rather than speaking.
seeds wrote: Kidding aside, what style of music do you play, and what was the name(s) of the group(s) you played in? Any recordings?
Actually, I thought that the raw and live sound of your drums, combined with the excellent playing of your guitarist friend (Tim?) sounded great.Greta wrote: Yup, a YT and three Soundcloud channels. All amateur fun aside from some old recordings of my old bands bumbling around the traps in the 80s and 90s. This is the most updated one, mostly instrumental home recordings with an old friend (and one of my cohorts in in the 80s as above) https://soundcloud.com/in-the-house-5.
You'll laugh at my primitive recording approach - stick a Zoom H2 in the middle of the room and jam, or put it in front of the kit if we are dubbing, and then clean it up in Audacity...
Cheers Seeds, that's good feedback. Here's the YT https://www.youtube.com/user/AlmostEthical/ - the good, bad and the ugly Have you anything online?seeds wrote:seeds wrote: Kidding aside, what style of music do you play, and what was the name(s) of the group(s) you played in? Any recordings?Actually, I thought that the raw and live sound of your drums, combined with the excellent playing of your guitarist friend (Tim?) sounded great.Greta wrote: Yup, a YT and three Soundcloud channels. All amateur fun aside from some old recordings of my old bands bumbling around the traps in the 80s and 90s. This is the most updated one, mostly instrumental home recordings with an old friend (and one of my cohorts in in the 80s as above) https://soundcloud.com/in-the-house-5.
You'll laugh at my primitive recording approach - stick a Zoom H2 in the middle of the room and jam, or put it in front of the kit if we are dubbing, and then clean it up in Audacity...
If you haven’t already, you should put those tunes out in a CD. Maybe get some airplay on a progressive rock/jazz station. Good stuff there Greta.
Good job on your laying tracks and mixing in Audacity too.
A while back, I purchased the pro recording software called Studio One 2 by Presonus, of which I haven’t even begun to figure out how to use its vast array of features yet.
I’m so accustomed to using the old analog recording methods (hands-on mixing board and outboard effects processors with faders and knobs, etc.) that it is difficult for me to make the transition to digital (less energy and patience for learning new things due to old age and memory issues ).
What’s the link to that YT upload you mentioned?
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