Einstein and the Cosmic Man

[Nick_A]

OK, so you disagree with ICan. Well, that's nice, I guess.

Yes and no. What is the source of anamnesis or apriori knowledge that makes intuition and objective conscience possible?

Alleged facts of the "source" and "anamnesis" and "a priori knowledge" and "objective conscience" not in evidence. Sorry.

But that's OK. You may disagree with me, and that's fine. What betrays your lack of alleged "enlightenment" is this: It's never possible, by your lights, that your interlocutors are just honestly mistaken; rather, for you, they must be evil killers of the spirit.

No. The human condition lacks consciousness. That is why it is described as the Great Beast. The unconscious beast is neither good or bad. it is just a creature of reaction. Other beasts act normally for their species. Our species doesn't. Some have the need to awaken to become normal. I support them I also know of those like Einstein who are far more advanced than me but help me in my understanding. I know their influence is hated by the world but not by those like me.

[marjoram_blues]

I really hope AMod doesn't delete this thread.
So much effort to enlighten...
On Bums, Beasts and Babes.

[Harbal]

No. The human condition lacks consciousness. That is why it is described as the Great Beast.

Just because you are obsessed with the term "the Great Beast" does not mean it is generally accepted as the description of the human condition. That's like saying that because I regard you to be "the Great Plonker", the rest of humanity should think of you as such. That would be unreasonable, as all the rest of humanity aren't acquainted with you.

Some have the need to awaken to become normal. I support them

If your support consists of setting them a contrary example then I can't help but think that your strategy is not as sound as you imagine.

I also know of those like Einstein who are far more advanced than me but help me in my understanding. I know their influence is hated by the world

The Worldwide hatred of Einstein must be one of the best kept secrets ever, hardly anyone knows about it.

[Nick_A]

Those who understand this cosmic religious feeling strive to keep it alive in the world especially in the young who are our future.

I believe the children are our future
Teach them well and let them lead the way
Show them all the beauty they possess inside
Give them a sense of pride to make it easier
Let the children's laughter remind us how we used to be

But who is capable of teaching or even knowing what or how to teach? Do you really think it is spelled out on page 36 of the manual? Of course not. Who is capable of allowing them to feel the humility of what it means to be human in the light of human psychological potential? Introduce me. I'd like to shake their hand.

How to encourage the young to accept themselves - to know themselves as opposed to their worth being decided by the world?

Why did we lose the sense of wonder and allow it to devolve into pettiness and the sadness it produces? Does it have to be? Secularism insists on the equality of sadness and pettiness and opposition cannot be allowed.

[Greta]

I really hope AMod doesn't delete this thread.
So much effort to enlighten...
On Bums, Beasts and Babes.

I liked the twist where, earlier he trolled that it was an insult not pinch an attractive woman's arse. Now we find that the pinched bums were of people he knew well.

This example was used to justify his favourite politician, Trump, bragging about grabbing relative strangers by the vagina because he was too powerful for them to do anything about it. Objections to Trump's ugliness were dubbed "politically correct" by Nick, and now he introduces new information - that the women whose bums he pinched were already known to him - and then retrospectively claims that that is what I objected to. The Cosmic Man appears not to be the Ethical Man.

But is Nick a cosmic man? Hardly. Just a solipsistic misogynist trying to associate his hate-filled ideas with peace-loving Einstein, and associates his own unhinged theology with Einstein's appreciation for Spinoza.

“The most beautiful emotion we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion that stands at the cradle of all true art and science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead, a snuffed-out candle. To sense that behind anything that can be experienced there is something that our minds cannot grasp, whose beauty and sublimity reaches us only indirectly: this is religiousness. In this sense, and in this sense only, I am a devoutly religious man.

The irony here is that Nick seems to immune to awe and wonder because he dismisses it all as worthless shadows on the cave. Nick and his ilk oppose everything that Einstein stood for or cared about.

[Nick_A]

No. The human condition lacks consciousness. That is why it is described as the Great Beast.

Just because you are obsessed with the term "the Great Beast" does not mean it is generally accepted as the description of the human condition. That's like saying that because I regard you to be "the Great Plonker", the rest of humanity should think of you as such. That would be unreasonable, as all the rest of humanity aren't acquainted with you.

Some have the need to awaken to become normal. I support them

If your support consists of setting them a contrary example then I can't help but think that your strategy is not as sound as you imagine.

I also know of those like Einstein who are far more advanced than me but help me in my understanding. I know their influence is hated by the world

The Worldwide hatred of Einstein must be one of the best kept secrets ever, hardly anyone knows about it.

Harbal

Just because you are obsessed with the term "the Great Beast" does not mean it is generally accepted as the description of the human condition.

Of course not. It is too insulting. Eve had it figured out as witnessed in the following abstract. Left to its own devices Man becomes the Beast. Who can be open to such an insulting concept? Apparently some can.


http://orb.binghamton.edu/sagp/447/

Abstract
Although Plato's emphasis on rationality and calculative reason, along with his faith in the soul's immortality, place him well to mark a clear-cut distinction between the human and the beast, that clear distinction is somewhat difficult to locate. While there is no strong evidence that Plato was inclined to attribute human-like cognitive capabilities to animals, the absence of extended textual engagements with animal cognition make this an uncertain issue. And in the moral domain, there do seem to be texts which suggest that a kind of natural virtue may be found among animals. These appear in the Laws. and are counterbalanced by earlier denials of those same virtues to the non-human soul. But most interestingly, Plato's descriptions of the inner dynamics and characteristic moral failures of the human soul bring humans and beasts into affinity. Plato's emphasis on the precariousness of the genuinely human condition, on its artifactual nature and the necessity of constant vigilance lest the beast within break its bonds and run to supremacy, have the implication that the clear distinction between human and beast which the Cratvlus etymology signals is itself a result, an achievement, and an ideal. It is in effect a difficult process, rather than a naturally given condition. For Plato, human nature must be won, and won again.

The Worldwide hatred of Einstein must be one of the best kept secrets ever, hardly anyone knows about it.

Einstein’s influence is hated so it is denied. Instead People call him an atheist and a secularist which is of course not hated. His influence comparing Man as we are to the cosmic man must be hated. It suggests we are not the supreme cosmic man only lacking in a few more facts. What secularist can tolerate such an insult?

https://www.amazon.com/Einstein-Poet-Se ... 0828318735

Such a book should be banned. “There is nothing to search for. We are the cosmic man.”

Friedrich Nietzsche:
Thus Spoke Zarathustra Excerpt

What is the greatest thing you can experience? It is the hour of your greatest contempt. The hour in which even your happiness becomes loathsome to you, and so also your reason and virtue.

The hour when you say: What good is my happiness? It is poverty and filth and wretched contentment. But my happiness should justify existence itself!

The hour when you say: What good is my reason? Does it long for knowledge as the lion for his prey? It is poverty and filth and wretched contentment!

The hour when you say: What good is my virtue? It has not yet driven me mad! How weary I am of my good and my evil! It is all poverty and filth and wretched contentment!

The Cave man promotes wretched contentment as the greatest of all proof of progess and Nietzsche had the nerve to write this. Only those on the path to the cosmic man dislike their own wretched contentment. Progressive education will take care of that and make them normal.

[Nick_A]

I really hope AMod doesn't delete this thread.
So much effort to enlighten...
On Bums, Beasts and Babes.

I liked the twist where, earlier he trolled that it was an insult not pinch an attractive woman's arse. Now we find that the pinched bums were of people he knew well.

This example was used to justify his favourite politician, Trump, bragging about grabbing relative strangers by the vagina because he was too powerful for them to do anything about it. Objections to Trump's ugliness were dubbed "politically correct" by Nick, and now he introduces new information - that the women whose bums he pinched were already known to him - and then retrospectively claims that that is what I objected to. The Cosmic Man appears not to be the Ethical Man.

But is Nick a cosmic man? Hardly. Just a solipsistic misogynist trying to associate his hate-filled ideas with peace-loving Einstein, and associates his own unhinged theology with Einstein's appreciation for Spinoza.

“The most beautiful emotion we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion that stands at the cradle of all true art and science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead, a snuffed-out candle. To sense that behind anything that can be experienced there is something that our minds cannot grasp, whose beauty and sublimity reaches us only indirectly: this is religiousness. In this sense, and in this sense only, I am a devoutly religious man.

The irony here is that Nick seems to immune to awe and wonder because he dismisses it all as worthless shadows on the cave. Nick and his ilk oppose everything that Einstein stood for or cared about.

"When a man joins a political party, he submissively adopts a mental attitude which he will express later on with words such as, ‘As a monarchist, as a Socialist, I think that …’ It is so comfortable! It amounts to having no thoughts at all. Nothing is more comfortable than not having to think." Simone Weil

The sad thing here is that Greta has allowed herself to become a political animal with devotion for some and hatred for others. She is a slave to an agenda so is losing the ability for impartial reason. This is what is happening to the young snowflakes in universities. They are devolving into political animals and slaves to an agenda. Why think? Let the agenda think for you and go to your safe space. A truly frightening condition.

Awe and wonder is experienced through witnessing reality. Enchantment with the shadows on the wall produces the joys of fantasy. A seeker of truth learns to discriminate between the two

[davidm]

So now Nick joints ICan in trying to co-opt Nietzsche. So amusing!

[Nick_A]

So now Nick joints ICan in trying to co-opt Nietzsche. So amusing!

You must be into wretched contentment.

[davidm]

So now Nick joints ICan in trying to co-opt Nietzsche. So amusing!

You must be into wretched contentment.

Whatever, Nicky. *Pats Nicky patronizingly on head*

[Nick_A]

So now Nick joints ICan in trying to co-opt Nietzsche. So amusing!

You must be into wretched contentment.

Whatever, Nicky. *Pats Nicky patronizingly on head*

I guess it could have been worse. I could have been pinched on the behind.

[davidm]

You must be into wretched contentment.

Whatever, Nicky. *Pats Nicky patronizingly on head*

I guess it could have been worse. I could have been pinched on the behind.

*shudders*

[Greta]

You must be into wretched contentment.

Whatever, Nicky. *Pats Nicky patronizingly on head*

I guess it could have been worse. I could have been pinched on the behind.

For the sake of karma, ideally Trump would grab Nick by the dick - but he's too busy trying to create a war to save his political hide from his incompetence.

[AMod]

Dontaskme,

What sort of A Mod are you?

A tyrannical one.

Maybe this will help as it was my old sig when we allowed them,

"Let it not be said that this is not a benevolent tyranny"

One who doesn't respond to simple honest and genuine request. One who ignores without so much as an explanation or reason.

See above.

I asked via a PM for the removal of a thread I created on Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:33 am ...It was never removed.

Did you? I must have ignored it after you first got someone else to ask me.

Not that I really care, there's no point crying over spilt milk,

And yet here you are doing just that?

but am just curious as to why there was silence after I'd made the effort to communicate with you. It's common courtesy to acknowledge a PM even if it was just to say sorry it is not my policy to delete threads once the contents have been submitted. But then any decision to acknowledge or not is a power that belongs to yours truly I'm assuming

See the beginning above.

AMod.

[AMod]

marjoram_blues,

AMod, if there is a delusional disorder, it's more serious than simply bothering you with it.

There is nothing more serious on this forum than bothering me.

AMod.