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...Can you conceive an alternate way for leaving feudal society without entering Capitalism?




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As far as I know, Russia went right from feudalism to 'state communism' with little-no capitalist in between stage.
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...Can you conceive an alternate way for leaving feudal society without entering Capitalism?




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I would argue that Capitalism and Communism are dual constructs of the technocracy we live in today, with this technocracy itself being an extension of the industrialized era beginning beginning in the late 18th century and fully germinating in the 19th.

If one were to look at the capitalist system, it can be observed that as a construct it could not fully survive without communism (or some off branch of it) as evidenced by the west's dependence on eastern products and the moral authority it derives from the communist's systematic "abuse" of its follower's in the production of these same goods (ie poor "material" living standards).

If one were to look at the communist system, it can be observed that as a construct it could not fully survive without capitalism ( or some off branch of it) as evidenced by its dependence on the west's consumerism of its products and the moral authority it derives from the capitalist's systematic "abused" of it followers in the consumption of these same goods (ie poor "spiritual" living standards).

It is in these respects that capitalism and communism, when they grew into a fuller maturity, are simply dual political systems representing the material and spiritual natures of man. It is in these respects they are extensions of the nature of man's existence within this technocratic era.

Closer observation reveals that these dual structures increase in growth with their "victory" over Nazism (or fascism depending on the nature of the term's one chooses to use.) This nature of Nazism represents the intellectual aspect of the technological man, as evidenced by a "will to power" through technology embraced fully by the German race at the time. With the conquest of the Nazis, by both capitalist and communist forces, the "material" nature of the technocratic revolution synthesized with the "intellectual" nature in the west, while simultaneously the "spiritual" nature synthesized with the "intellectual" nature in the east.

These two resulting forms of synthesis are evidenced somewhat within the nature of the cold war and observed the polarity of capitalism/nazism and communism/nazism which we have come to observed. However as the years progressed we have and are observing these polar duels synthesize further into the form of "globalism" we see today. The west's capitalism/nazism is diffusing further with communist values and the east's communism/nazism is diffusing further with capitalist values. This diffusion is argued as globalism, however what we are observing is the long ago planted seed of industrialism (whose roots extend from a post theocratic form of alchemy known as the "enlightenment") beginning to bear its fruits as it takes the nature of man and "crystallizes" him into technological entity whose nature will be found in stone (silicon/quartz) and metal.

What we are observing today is the fruits of an alchemy long ago started by our father's over the nature of ...well nature itself. This is part of the reason why we observe the nature of the warfare and general state of anxiety we observe today...it is mass cognitive dissonance over the nature of humanity role as a universal "median" between dimension's of existence for the nature of man as the "median of all things" is observed in the universal nature of religious and philosophical values being found on median (or the nature of "centering") itself between dimensions of existence.

- There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: a time to be born and a time to die, a time to plant and a time to uproot, a time to kill and a time to heal, a time to tear down and a time to build, a time to weep and a time to laugh, a time to mourn and a time to dance, a time to scatter stones and a time to gather them, a time to embrace and a time to refrain from embracing,a time to search and a time to give up, a time to keep and a time to throw away, a time to tear and a time to mend, a time to be silent and a time to speak, a time to love and a time to hate, a time for war and a time for peace. (The Three Abrahamic Religions)

- “A man shouldn't hold onto the cup but drink in moderation” (Norse Paganism)

- “the end we are seeking is what we have been doing” (Nichomachean ethics)

- Similarities to Aristotle’s Nichomachean Ethics and the doctrine of a golden mean.

- Aristotelian concept of virtue requiring both contemplative (abstract) and moral (physical) properties

- Atheist moral philosopher Schopenhauer: "For safeguarding the lives of citizens…capital punishment is therefore absolutely necessary"[53] "The murderer…who is condemned to death according to the law must, it is true, be now used as a mere means, and with complete right. For public security, which is the principal object of the State, is disturbed by him; indeed it is abolished if the law remains unfulfilled. The murderer, his life, his person, must be the means of fulfilling the law, and thus of re-establishing public security."[54] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Schopenhauer

- The median of Man and Nature within Taoism expressed through the Temple of the Golden Measure in Baoji, Shaanxi
and his Identity and harmony organized through virtue (Taoism, wiki)

- Anaximander’s observation of anything that loses it’s symmetry with nature eventually ceases.

- "Gravitation, which is a law in the material world, is the impulse toward the center of materiality; levitation, which is a law in the spiritual world, is the impulse toward the center of spirituality." (Blavatsky, if I remember correctly)

- “The constellation of the Scales was placed in the zodiac to symbolize the power of choice, by means of which man may weigh one problem against another.” (The Zodiac, insert sacred Texts)

- And the list could go on ...


It is this nature of technological alchemy, expressed through at the macro level through political institutions and the micro through practical everyday human interaction, which in and of itself is about changing the nature of what we deem as both quality and quantity through the act of "re-centering" what we observe as the nature of the scales of reality. However axioms are very rarely symmetrical, or in other terms: just/fair, and in these respects we will further observe what we are and currently observing: turmoil, anxiety, and strife over nothing other than fractured conceptions over the "nature of nature" and the "nature of reason".

In all simplicity it breaks down to a question of geometry at the end of the day for everything we understand breaks down to space with space being broken down to simple lines and points. We observe this obviously at the abstract and physical level, but also at the intuitive/emotional level. (ex: joy and sadness are dual symmetrical points of feeling whose median triadic nature is found as "calmness" or "peace". Whose can argue against feeling being just another dimension of space? I cannot.) It is in these respect, and with this axiom in mind, that the nature of political systems are best understood through a geometric perspective for the nature of the center point as truth is universal regardless of whether one is a materialist or spiritualist, an athlete or intellectual, rich or poor, man or woman.

And what of the point of the future that reflects the dual points of past and present?

Much like all processes of flux, whose apex is found in the points of birth and death, it's nature is found in dissonance.
We see some evidence of it today within the current wave of technological integration into the fabric of the human median, and we will see these waves increase its height, width and depth within the coming years as the polarity between the abstract and physical nature of man existence gives rise to a storm of proportions, I believe, not seen since the beginning of the world for the nature of what it means to measure not only value and meaning is on the line but the nature of measurement as "rationality" itself. Evidence is further observe even at the micro level between the nature of generation gaps over what the nature of "wisdom" and "truth" is and will be.

We are living within history, a history so intensely important for the construct of what it means to be human that much like the nature of "birth" and "death" it will both simultaneously define us and be completely forgotten at the same time in the same space.

As a note, I must give credit to Hegel's triadic observation of Nazism, Americanism, and Communism as the axiom from which this observation is founded.
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Re: ~ Roots of Capitalism ~

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Anarchism or Communism. Are those feudal?

It's not so much that capitalism is worse than feudalism; it's that once you allow someone to become super-powerful (e.g. the super-rich), you stop having the option to stand up for your own rights. I don't much like the government punishing people for 20 years in the U.S. for having marijuana. But, they can do that since they are super-powerful.
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