surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 8:35 am
ken wrote:
To Me Universe IS ALL THERE IS and Mind IS what allows ALL to be KNOWN
Cannot the Universe be the Mind and the Mind the Universe or must they be separate from each other
How can one thing be another thing?
Would you ask can not the camel be the Universe and the Universe the camel or must they be separate from each other?
The reason there are two different words, with two different definitions, is because every thing that appears as be different and/or separate is given a different and separate label.
The Mind and the Universe are NOT separate from each other, just like a camel and the Universe are not separate.
Did you read the definition I gave for the 'Universe'. If the 'Universe' means ALL-THERE-IS, then every thing or ALL there is IS a part of the Universe. So, contrary to what you asked there is no thing that is nor even could be separate from the Universe.
The Universe is made up of physical things and space. Space being the distance between physical things.
surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 8:35 amDid the Universe create the Mind or did the Mind create the Universe or did neither create the other
The Universe is in creation, NOW. One thing can NOT create another thing.
surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 8:35 amCan the Universe make a rock so heavy that the Mind would never know how it could ever be lifted
No.
surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 8:35 amCan a rock know that the Universe and / or the Mind exists and if so how exactly does it know this
As far as I am aware, a brain is needed in order to know some thing. If a rock can have a working brain, then I guess a rock can know some thing, but I am NOT aware of any rock with a working brain.
surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 8:35 amCan humans ever know that there is a Mind and if so how exactly can they know this
Yes they can.
They can very easily discover and KNOW this by remaining completely and fully open.
surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 8:35 amAre you the only human who knows that the Mind exists or do others also know this
You have continually used the terms 'your mind' and 'my mind' et cetera, so do you know the Mind exists? If so, then you already know the answer to your question.
Would you like Me to go around and ask every human being if they know that the Mind exists, so then I could answer your question accurately? If you do, then you might have to wait a little or quite a while, depending on your reference point.
surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 8:35 amIs human language a problem when it comes to accepting that the Mind exists
Not at all.
Human belief is what stops the learning of, agreeing with, and the acceptance of the one and only Mind.
Just like it was, and still is for some, human belief that is what stops some from the learning of, agreeing with, and the acceptance of the earth revolves around the sun and the earth not being flat after all. Language is not a huge barrier. Belief is the main and biggest barrier to discovering, learning, agreeing with and/or accepting Truth.
surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 8:35 amIs human thinking a problem when it comes to accepting that the Mind exists
Yes, thinking relates to assuming and believing very closely.
By the way do you accept that a Mind exists?
Is your questioning solely in regards to a Mind existing only, or is your questioning more in relation to how many Minds existing?
If you ask your questions in a very simple, clear, unambiguous and straight forward manner, then it makes giving direct answers to you far easier and simpler.