Is birth prevention a form of genocide?

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Is birth prevention a form of genocide?

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Clearly you're not killing individuals. Yet one group can wipe out another group from the face of the Earth.

Would you regard this as genocide? (I'm on the fence about this myself)

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Re: Is birth prevention a form of genocide?

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It just seems a little unkind to knowingly let those millions of sperm set out on their adventure of a lifetime full of false hope.
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Philosophy Explorer wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2017 10:28 am Clearly you're not killing individuals. Yet one group can wipe out another group from the face of the Earth.

Would you regard this as genocide? (I'm on the fence about this myself)

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If the birth prevention is aimed at one specific group, then it could be genocide, but if it is aimed at everyone in general, then it is not.
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Re: Is birth prevention a form of genocide?

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thedoc wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2017 8:59 pm
Philosophy Explorer wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2017 10:28 am Clearly you're not killing individuals. Yet one group can wipe out another group from the face of the Earth.

Would you regard this as genocide? (I'm on the fence about this myself)

PhilX
If the birth prevention is aimed at one specific group, then it could be genocide, but if it is aimed at everyone in general, then it is not.
What if it were aimed at everyone to disguise one group being the actual intended target?

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Re: Is birth prevention a form of genocide?

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Philosophy Explorer wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2017 10:28 am Clearly you're not killing individuals. Yet one group can wipe out another group from the face of the Earth.

Would you regard this as genocide? (I'm on the fence about this myself)

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And what if a woman drops all that sperm into the toilet? And what a crime ejaculation becomes...! God, I'm worried!

NO! Get a grip, man! Genocide is clearly defined as it is! :mrgreen:
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Re: Is birth prevention a form of genocide?

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Necromancer wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2017 5:43 am
Philosophy Explorer wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2017 10:28 am Clearly you're not killing individuals. Yet one group can wipe out another group from the face of the Earth.

Would you regard this as genocide? (I'm on the fence about this myself)

PhilX
And what if a woman drops all that sperm into the toilet? And what a crime ejaculation becomes...! God, I'm worried!

NO! Get a grip, man! Genocide is clearly defined as it is! :mrgreen:
Yes, Genocide is well defined but there is no mention of the means to accomplish it, therefore the OP is a valid question.
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Re: Is birth prevention a form of genocide?

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thedoc wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2017 4:34 pmYes, Genocide is well defined but there is no mention of the means to accomplish it, therefore the OP is a valid question.
I agree with Necromancer. Using the word "genocide" in this context drains it of it's meaning. It's an important word and should be saved for when it's really needed.
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Re: Is birth prevention a form of genocide?

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Philosophy Explorer wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2017 10:28 am Clearly you're not killing individuals. Yet one group can wipe out another group from the face of the Earth.

Would you regard this as genocide? (I'm on the fence about this myself)

PhilX
I thought genocide involved killing people. So Catholics would have to say 'yes' and everyone else 'No.'
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