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ProfAlexHartdegen
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need help understanding when a Proof is a Proof

Post by ProfAlexHartdegen » Tue Aug 29, 2017 3:43 am

okay, I'm rather confused by the discussion in the section of my book 'The Logic Book' about the section The Completeness of SD and SD+.

I will write a portion of the discussion verbatim here; if it is not enough information to help you explain to me then I could try to write some of the earlier or later discussion verbatim - but I hope this will be enough to help you to explain it to me.

"6.4.7 If Γ is inconsistent in SD, then every superset of Γ is inconsistent in SD.

Proof: Assume that Γ is inconsistent in SD. Then for some sentence P there is a derivation of P in which all the primary assumptions are members of Γ, also a derivation of ~P in which all the primary assumptions are members of Γ. The primary assumptions of both derivations are members of every superset of Γ, so P and ~P are both derivable from every superset of Γ. Therefore every superset of Γ is inconsistent in SD.


But we have already proved by mathematical induction that every set in the infinite sequence is consistent in SD. So Γ(j+1) cannot be inconsistent in SD, and our supposition that led to this conclusion is wrong-we may conclude that Γ* is consistent in SD."

(Γ* was defined in earlier discussion as the union of all the sets in the series and is defined to contain every sentence that is a member of at least one set in the series and no other sentences.)



Okay, I hope that's enough to clarify my question which is: If the discussion was to develop a Proof, the one I just wrote, then they proceed to tell me that the supposition ( is that the Assumption?) is wrong - then how does that comprize a Proof?!?

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Re: need help understanding when a Proof is a Proof

Post by ProfAlexHartdegen » Wed Aug 30, 2017 2:40 am

Let me try to rephrase the question ..... When you see a 'Proof' in a book about Logic - does it mean more that it is more of an argument with as many possible aspects discussed, defined, and answered with a possible outcome? Or is a 'Proof' what most people would consider it - evidence for an assertion with no other possible interpretation possible so that the assertion and its' underlying implicit ideas are certain and exactly as described? :?: :?

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Re: need help understanding when a Proof is a Proof

Post by Averroes » Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:39 pm

ProfAlex wrote:Okay, I hope that's enough to clarify my question which is: If the discussion was to develop a Proof, the one I just wrote, then they proceed to tell me that the supposition ( is that the Assumption?) is wrong - then how does that comprize a Proof?!?
I think this a case of reductio ad absurdum,i.e. assume the negation, derive a contradiction, and then deduce the conclusion. We have seen that before in the negation introduction rule. The supposition/assumption is wrong because it introduces a contradiction. Check to see if you can understand the material now. Otherwise give me that: "But we have already proved by mathematical induction that every set in the infinite sequence is consistent in SD."

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Re: need help understanding when a Proof is a Proof

Post by ProfAlexHartdegen » Wed Aug 30, 2017 2:01 pm

thanks! :D I have a new question but I think I must create a new thread - give me a few minutes and I'll post it! thanks again for your willingness to help!

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