The Axiom Of Identity *Challenged*

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henry quirk wrote:Harbal,

I laughed cuz you made a funny.

Keep doin' that...not enough of that in this place.
I'm not sure Hobbes would agree with you.
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Hobbes, say it ain't so!
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henry quirk wrote:Hobbes, say it ain't so!
Depends.

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If Harbal makes a funny and derails an interesting discussion then fuck that. I think he does it to cover his lack of understanding.

But I like a joke.
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Hobbes' Choice wrote:
If Harbal makes a funny and derails an interesting discussion then fuck that. I think he does it to cover his lack of understanding.
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It's more to do with uncovering.
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Where did Moyo run off to?
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Hobbes' Choice wrote:Where did Moyo run off to?
Identity is not a particularly difficult concept to grasp so maybe he's satisfied with the answers he's received to his questions.
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Hobbes' Choice wrote:Where did Moyo run off to?
I've gone as well but you're obviously pretending not to have noticed.
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Harbal wrote:
Hobbes' Choice wrote:Where did Moyo run off to?
I've gone as well but you're obviously pretending not to have noticed.
Who said that?
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I'm back for a bit...

I've never met people as slight headed as those on this forum. 1 divided by zero not included.

This is what i did.
I twisted the flow of this debate so that "being the mindless ..*things* that you are" , you ended up saying what i was saying and i ended up saying what you were saying.
And you didnt even notice...
Thats when i realised that i'm wasting my time here.

because it remains an inescapable fact that all our observations of the external world are exclusively a construction of our own minds.
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Heres the whole thing:
Obvious Leo wrote:I think Moyo is trying to have his cake and eat it too because the human consciousness is the loneliest place in the entire universe. We might imagine that an inter-subjective agreement on the identity of an "object" represents some sort of transcendent "truth" but this notion is illusory. If anything our facility in the use of language to codify and homogenise our inter-subjective agreements does nothing more than reinforce this illusion because it remains an inescapable fact that all our observations of the external world are exclusively a construction of our own minds. Plato was full of shit because humans are pattern-makers and NOT pattern-discoverers, although I guess Plato can be forgiven for not having the benefit of modern cognitive neuroscience.
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Why did you come back?
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Moyo wrote:I'm back for a bit...
Who cares?
I've never met people as slight headed as those on this forum. 1 divided by zero not included.
And yet here you are? :roll:
This is what i did.
I twisted the flow of this debate so that "being the mindless ..*things* that you are" , you ended up saying what i was saying and i ended up saying what you were saying.
And you didnt even notice...
Actually what I noticed is that you avoided discussing many of the objections to your thought. I also notice that you've not so far lived up to your promises nor proved yourself the genius you claim.
Thats when i realised that i'm wasting my time here.
And yet here you are? Why do you write your feelings as who cares about such things upon a philosophy forum?
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As an addition to all current field axioms


"For every A in S there exists a z1 and a z2 constituting A, such that any A in operation of multiplication or division is only representing z1 or z2 in any given equation. Such that z1 for all A's other than zero equal A. Such that z2 for all A's other than zero equal A. Such that z1 for zero equals 0. Such that z2 for zero equals 1."
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Hobbes' Choice wrote:
henry quirk wrote:Hobbes, say it ain't so!
Depends.

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If Harbal makes a funny and derails an interesting discussion then fuck that. I think he does it to cover his lack of understanding.

But I like a joke.
How did I miss this lol! :lol:
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conway wrote:As an addition to all current field axioms


"For every A in S there exists a z1 and a z2 constituting A, such that any A in operation of multiplication or division is only representing z1 or z2 in any given equation. Such that z1 for all A's other than zero equal A. Such that z2 for all A's other than zero equal A. Such that z1 for zero equals 0. Such that z2 for zero equals 1."
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