What Is The Meaning Of Life?

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Re: What Is The Meaning Of Life?

Post by Dalek Prime » Sat Apr 25, 2015 1:30 am

Impenitent wrote:I thought it was 42...

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You think that's a joke, but it's not, because 42 is obviously an absurdity, and therein lies its truth, hiding in plain sight.

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Re: What Is The Meaning Of Life?

Post by Hobbes' Choice » Sun Apr 26, 2015 6:06 pm

Dalek Prime wrote:
Impenitent wrote:I thought it was 42...

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You think that's a joke, but it's not, because 42 is obviously an absurdity, and therein lies its truth, hiding in plain sight.
Meaning of Life: Exterminate all non DALEK lifeforms!!!

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Re: What Is The Meaning Of Life?

Post by Dalek Prime » Sun Apr 26, 2015 9:47 pm

Hobbes' Choice wrote:
Dalek Prime wrote:
Impenitent wrote:I thought it was 42...

-Imp
You think that's a joke, but it's not, because 42 is obviously an absurdity, and therein lies its truth, hiding in plain sight.
Meaning of Life: Exterminate all non DALEK lifeforms!!!
I'm just an antinatalist, not an efilist. But if I ever come across a big red button just lying around, who knows. :wink:

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Re: What Is The Meaning Of Life?

Post by surreptitious57 » Tue Apr 28, 2015 3:07 pm

GreatandWiseTrixie wrote:
not all humans are chimpanzees but most are
Humans are apes and monkeys but they are not chimpanzees

As we share the same genes but we are not the same species

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Re: What Is The Meaning Of Life?

Post by Hobbes' Choice » Tue Apr 28, 2015 4:01 pm

GreatandWiseTrixie wrote:
not all humans are chimpanzees but most are
And you are too?

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Re: What Is The Meaning Of Life?

Post by Adriana » Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:41 pm

Well, pretty interesting topic with a lot of useful info. However, every other human being has his own opinion according to his status and lifestyle,
i found another article about it, where it's pretty interesting info as well
https://haptips.com/meaning-life-what-i ... g-of-life/

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Re: What Is The Meaning Of Life?

Post by Eodnhoj7 » Sun Sep 10, 2017 3:11 pm

Often times considering a question, by it's very formation, lends itself to a specified limited set of answers often times the answer is found within the very question itself. Let's look at the simply language structure of it and focus on the word "meaning"?.

From this word "meaning" a root point can be found within it under as "mean". If one were to reflect further (as all definition as merely words reflected through words, we see this in the dictionary as one word leads to another with that word leading to the previous and a seperate one. (which lends itself to the nature of definition and logic as having simultaneous circular and linear properties.)) the nature of "mean" breaks down to an act of balancing or centering as a from of constructive symmetry which maintains both order and existence. We see this in mathematics as "finding the mean", the nature of being a moderate (mean) conservative or liberal in politics, the golden mean of morality, Nichomachean ethics, etc.

From this we may deduce, as a definite and unavoidable possible answer, that the quest and pursuit of meaning is a quest and pursuit of balancing or centering. We can further observe this in the practical sense as the question "what is the meaning of life?" usually arises during a time of polarity or extremes within one's life.

It is in these respects that the nature of meaning is a the nature of center and in these respect that the nature of consciousness, or what it means to be human, breaks down at both the abstract and physical dimension to a form of "geometry" where the ability to establish, maintain, and propagate points as centers in itself is a form of morality or way of being. We observe this within the reproductive faculties of nature where points (whether man/animal/plant) synthesis to form further points (seeds, eggs, sperm) or in the more abstract realms where the 3 points reflecting each other eternally manifests as the triangle or a point reflecting upon itself is the point/circle/sphere as 3 in 1 or 1 in 3.

It is in this respect that from our reflections over the nature of meaning we can have some form of answer for the first question and move onto a second. What is the purpose of life?

If we observe the meaning of life as the propagation and maintenance of balance (for all deficiencies or problems arise from a lack of balance) "purpose" as a reflection of "meaning" ("the reason for which something is done or created or for which something exists") is in itself a reflective structure of meaning as an approximate and can be viewed as "meaning" reflecting upon itself to create an approximate structure as "purpose".

From a Pythagorean perspective we can observe meaning as unity and balance as 1 point reflecting on itself and the result is 2 points which in turn reflect both themselves and each other to produce further points ad infinitude, with infinity itself being "1". It is in these respects that the nature of meaning and purpose lend themselves to a propogative circularity through linearism with this circularity giving premise to the axioms: "Their is a time and place for everything" and "There is nothing new under the sun". It is in these respects, that through this "geometry of reality" that all meaning as points of existence in themselves have purpose.

In simpler terms existence is purpose, with any deficiency in purpose due to a deficiency in symmetry which we observe as "time" or "relativity" being akin to a form of randomness fluxing towards existence itself.

In practical terms, if you want your life to have "meaning" then pursue "balance" and "justice" (which in themselves are center points as means between extremes).

It all breaks down to geometry at the end of the day and somewhere along the line philosophy (and mankind in general) has forgotten this. Plato and the ancients viewed God as a sphere, the pagans worshiped the sun (which is strictly a physical gradation of the truth found in abstraction), and man in his nature of movements is a reflection of the sphere (as evidenced by Da Vinci's Vitruvian Man) whose is composed of three different sphere's (mind, body, spirit).

It really is beautiful and divine when one step's back and takes a look at it. Only a fool would say in his heart that there is no God.

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Re: What Is The Meaning Of Life?

Post by Hobbes' Choice » Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:19 pm

Eodnhoj7 wrote:
Sun Sep 10, 2017 3:11 pm
Often times considering a question, by it's very formation, lends itself to a specified limited set of answers often times the answer is found within the very question itself. Let's look at the simply language structure of it and focus on the word "meaning"?.
"Often" is a temporal concept. "Often times" is therefore a redundancy; "often" would do as well alone.
In fact most of the paragraph is redundant.
Often the answer is contained in the question. - would do as well.
Brevity is a skill it is well to learn.

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Re: What Is The Meaning Of Life?

Post by Eodnhoj7 » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:45 pm

Hobbes' Choice wrote:
Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:19 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote:
Sun Sep 10, 2017 3:11 pm
Often times considering a question, by it's very formation, lends itself to a specified limited set of answers often times the answer is found within the very question itself. Let's look at the simply language structure of it and focus on the word "meaning"?.
"Often" is a temporal concept. "Often times" is therefore a redundancy; "often" would do as well alone.
In fact most of the paragraph is redundant.
Often the answer is contained in the question. - would do as well.
Brevity is a skill it is well to learn.
Is that seriously the best criticism you have? Considering redundancy is necessary for those who have short attention spans.... I was hoping for better.

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Post by henry quirk » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:56 pm

The Meaning?

There isn't one.

The Purpose?

To move heat around.

Anything else 'you' add is 'you adding' (not 'supplanting').

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Post by Eodnhoj7 » Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:04 pm

henry quirk wrote:
Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:56 pm
The Meaning?

There isn't one.

The Purpose?

To move heat around.

Anything else 'you' add is 'you adding' (not 'supplanting').

How can their being "nothingness" (no meaning) unless their is "something" (meaning).

How can their be purpose ("to move heat around") without meaning or "a center".

Even to argue that the purpose to "move heat around", by the very nature of the heat moving "around" (or circularity) by default their must be a center point or median which in and of itself is a "mean" or "meaning".

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Re: What Is The Meaning Of Life?

Post by ken » Thu Sep 14, 2017 4:10 am

The meaning of 'Life' IS living, being alive.

The purpose of Life IS to make Itself (that is living, being alive) better.

Now a rock or a planet may not necessarily care at all about how it lives, however, in essence they are positioned in such a way, which best suits Life, Itself. Think about how earth is positioned in relation to a sun, and how every thing is positioned with each other. It is ALL perfect, in this sense, and therefore they do not even have to think nor care about becoming better. Of course some people, however, will not consider rocks, planets, suns as 'life', living and being alive, while others will. Anyway, this view could be agreed with and accepted from either side of that perspective.

Moving onto things which are perceived to be in a more of a life form;

A tree or shrub also may not necessarily think about nor care about how it lives, but it will, although seemingly unknowingly, structure its self so that the branches, roots, and leaves are positioned in the best way, so it can obtain the nutrients (sun, heat, and/or water, et cetera) to make its life better, as well as structuring its self the best that it can with thorns, poisonous, other deterrents, et cetera, in order to protect its self, thus making its life better.

Animals, besides the human ones, think about or care somewhat about how they live, by seeking out warmth in winter, shade in summer, more fulfilling nutrients, et cetera and in doing so they are making their life better.

The human being animal thinks about and cares very much about how it lives and will do just about all it can to make its life better. Sadly though usually only for its own personal self and/or a select few others around it.

Within ALL these things there is an essence of living and being alive driving them ALL to continue making life better. That essence of Life, which is so deeply ingrained in ALL things, drives them ALL to make Life better, for Its Self. Unfortunately though, this essence is lost on ALL things, and is turned towards the one, itself. This intrinsic essence in ALL things is working towards making Life, Itself, better for ALL things.

When human beings look past, and evolve past, their greedy, selfish, and very narrow views of Life, then that will allow the true essence of Life, which is within all things, to come to fruition.

The true essence of Everything IS to continue living, remaining, and being alive.

Contrary to popular belief the question about What Is The Meaning of Life is centered around Life, Itself, and NOT around human beings only. Sure only human beings may be able to ask the question, and sure they may be the only ones able to answer the question, in language form. But the actual answer, itself, comes from within Everything. From the essence of Everything, which is Life, Itself. The Meaning of Life IS living and being alive.

If you do not take My word for it, then just look it up in a dictionary. If you want to find the meaning/definition of any word, then look in a dictionary. That is its purpose.

By the way The Purpose of Life, for human beings, is to make Life better, which is rather contradictory because Life, Itself, IS already the best and perfect. But this is just another point of view I am continually learning how to express better, and more succinctly.

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Re: What Is The Meaning Of Life?

Post by Dubious » Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:18 am

The "what is" presupposes there is a meaning making the question itself meaningless. Whatever awareness contrives for itself is simply a manufacture of that which doesn't know and can never know but keeps asking anyways; we expect the question to contain some cosmic secret or revelation not yet revealed. Perennial silence will never silence the question since "meaning" is still demanded as a relic of old philosophies and variously created in lieu of any real or possible response to the question. Meaning remains mythic as it relates to life.

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Re: What Is The Meaning Of Life?

Post by Hobbes' Choice » Thu Sep 14, 2017 4:17 pm

Eodnhoj7 wrote:
Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:45 pm
Hobbes' Choice wrote:
Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:19 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote:
Sun Sep 10, 2017 3:11 pm
Often times considering a question, by it's very formation, lends itself to a specified limited set of answers often times the answer is found within the very question itself. Let's look at the simply language structure of it and focus on the word "meaning"?.
"Often" is a temporal concept. "Often times" is therefore a redundancy; "often" would do as well alone.
In fact most of the paragraph is redundant.
Often the answer is contained in the question. - would do as well.
Brevity is a skill it is well to learn.
Is that seriously the best criticism you have? Considering redundancy is necessary for those who have short attention spans.... I was hoping for better.
You should be more brief. There is very little in your post. Were you to have used fewer words, I might not have gone to sleep before the end.
The stuff about the meaning of life you spout does not even recognise the first point you make "Often the answer is contained in the question.". Were you to have recognised your own point you may well have realised the deficiency of your answer, and hence the question.
So rather than stop to consider if "What is the meaning of life?" is in any sense a meaningful question, or if it deserves an answer, or to examine upon what basis you might answer that question, you chose to run away with your own set of prejudices and gave us the old warn out answers.

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Re: What Is The Meaning Of Life?

Post by Eodnhoj7 » Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:23 pm

Hobbes' Choice wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2017 4:17 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote:
Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:45 pm
Hobbes' Choice wrote:
Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:19 pm


"Often" is a temporal concept. "Often times" is therefore a redundancy; "often" would do as well alone.
In fact most of the paragraph is redundant.
Often the answer is contained in the question. - would do as well.
Brevity is a skill it is well to learn.
Is that seriously the best criticism you have? Considering redundancy is necessary for those who have short attention spans.... I was hoping for better.
You should be more brief. There is very little in your post. Were you to have used fewer words, I might not have gone to sleep before the end.
The stuff about the meaning of life you spout does not even recognise the first point you make "Often the answer is contained in the question.". Were you to have recognised your own point you may well have realised the deficiency of your answer, and hence the question.
So rather than stop to consider if "What is the meaning of life?" is in any sense a meaningful question, or if it deserves an answer, or to examine upon what basis you might answer that question, you chose to run away with your own set of prejudices and gave us the old warn out answers.
It does actuality:

What is the "meaning" of life?

Break down the nature of meaning...and so on and so forth, the rest is explained. The question, like most, structures the answers before they are given. Changing "what" to "who, when, where, how, why" changes the nature even further.

The meaning of life breaks down to an observation of balance, for even the question itself arises from a time in a person's, or group of people's lives, when an unbalance extreme or polarity is involved. All polarities tend towards instability as they are in a continual state of flux. We observe this in various facets of abstract and physical reality.

I do not see how I am "prejudice" when I am arguing for "meaning" as a sense of "balance". Maybe you could elaborate further, and "be more brief"... I mean after all arguing one is wrong without providing a counter argument...is redundant. But then again that why you probably fell asleep, you find yourself boring and unoriginal, so you come here trying to prove yourself wrong only to get the same results day after day. That is probably why you chose the avatar you did.

Keep trying, I believe in you. Even if you do fail at having one original thought, well at least I am having fun...I can thank you for that.

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