Words Are To A Philosopher -

Bill Wiltrack · Post by **Bill Wiltrack** » Sat Jul 05, 2014 3:38 pm

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........................................what a molted shell is to a cicada.

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Bill Wiltrack · Post by **Bill Wiltrack** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 4:18 pm

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Words written by philosophers are their weak points. Their shell of fiction.

Philosophy, real philosophical insight, is not expressed but is experienced.

So, everything you know is wrong.

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WanderingLands · Post by **WanderingLands** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 7:30 pm

Bill Wiltrack wrote: Words written by philosophers are their weak points. Their shell of fiction.

Philosophy, real philosophical insight, is not expressed but is experienced.

So, everything you know is wrong.

But how about if you are able to record your experiences by word or writing? If everything we know is 'wrong', then wouldn't that include our experiences or our memories of these experiences?

Impenitent · Post by **Impenitent** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 8:57 pm

he doesn't know that his union master is a member of the Vienna circle...

-Imp

Arising_uk · Post by **Arising_uk** » Fri Jul 25, 2014 2:25 pm

Bill Wiltrack wrote:...

Philosophy, real philosophical insight, is not expressed but is experienced.

“Experience is not what happens to you. It is what you do with what happens to you.”
Aldous Huxley.

So, everything you know is wrong.[/size].

Including what you've just said?

Melchior · Post by **Melchior** » Fri Jul 25, 2014 3:46 pm

Bill Wiltrack wrote:.

Words written by philosophers are their weak points. Their shell of fiction.

Philosophy, real philosophical insight, is not expressed but is experienced.

So, everything you know is wrong.

"Dogs flew spaceships! The Aztecs invented the vacation! Men and women are the same sex! Our forefathers took drugs! Your brain is not the boss! Yes! That's right! Everything you know is wrong!".

Bill Wiltrack · Post by **Bill Wiltrack** » Sat Jul 26, 2014 12:59 am

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Life, REAL life is a molten, ever changing ghost that travels at light speed. Any thought or impression that we capture is already dead. Estranged and frozen in an ever changing multidimensional infinite vortex.

And yes, these are just words to a philosopher.

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Arising_uk · Post by **Arising_uk** » Sat Jul 26, 2014 3:10 am

Bill Wiltrack wrote:.Life, REAL life is a molten, ever changing ghost that travels at light speed. Any thought or impression that we capture is already dead. Estranged and frozen in an ever changing multidimensional infinite vortex.

And yes, these are just words to a philosopher.
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Actually no, these are the words of a gnu. One who ironically eschews metaphor and words but they are not surprising as philosophical clarity is not the gnu's aim.

Bill Wiltrack · Post by **Bill Wiltrack** » Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:02 pm

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You keep using the word gnu.

Why do you keep insistent upon that label?

What does that label mean to you?

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Arising_uk · Post by **Arising_uk** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 4:31 am

Bill Wiltrack wrote:
You keep using the word gnu.

Why do you keep insistent upon that label?

What does that label mean to you?

I keep insisting upon that label as it fits you well. Like most of the loons here you have memory issues, here's a reminder, 10th post down.

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Bill Wiltrack · Post by **Bill Wiltrack** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:50 am

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I looked at the link you provided & your definition.

Could you provide the source of that definition?

Because Wikipedia & wiktionary don't define that word in the way that you do.

Actually, when you use that word, the way in which you do, you better fit that definition by definition, because no one else on earth sees that word the way in which you do.

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Arising_uk · Post by **Arising_uk** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:05 am

Bill Wiltrack wrote:.I looked at the link you provided & your definition.

Could you provide the source of that definition?

Sure, me.

Because Wikipedia & wiktionary don't define that word in the way that you do.

lamo! After all your pontificating waffle about words you're now claiming definitions as an argument?

They don't do so because the new definition is not in accepted use yet but I have high hopes as it fits such as you so well. Hopefully "Interweeb" will take off as well as I think it fits a certain subset of the internet and world wide web as well.

Actually, when you use that word, the way in which you do, you better fit that definition by definition, because no one else on earth sees that word the way in which you do..

Nope, take your time and re-read the definition, maybe this time your narrator might provide some insight.

Bill Wiltrack · Post by **Bill Wiltrack** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:09 pm

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Yeah. About that...Interweeb is not a word either.

Again, in YOUR mind, there may be a gnu on the Interweeb but but NO ONE else on the planet besides you knows what that means.

Words in a philosopher's hands may be powerful. I am an excellent example of that....Voices in YOUR head may be an outward sign of acute psychosis. Unfortunately YOU may be an excellent example of that right now. May want to get yourself checked. If you are able.

Just sayin - friend to a friend.

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Arising_uk · Post by **Arising_uk** » Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:46 am

Bill Wiltrack wrote:.Yeah. About that...Interweeb is not a word either.

How are you writing it then?

Again, in YOUR mind, there may be a gnu on the Interweeb but but NO ONE else on the planet besides you knows what that means.

Oh! Sorry, forgot the definition,
Interweeb(noun) - subsection of the world-wide-web where gnus go to forage for acolytes and to spout their ridiculous metaphysical guff and reinforce their confirmation bias and indulge in selective reading. Common grazing grounds, philosophy forums and new age sites.

Now theres definitely two who know what it means and maybe more if others read this.

Words in a philosopher's hands may be powerful. I am an excellent example of that....

If you say so yourself.

NPD

Voices in YOUR head may be an outward sign of acute psychosis. Unfortunately YOU may be an excellent example of that right now. May want to get yourself checked. If you are able.

I don't have voices in my head that are not mine, it's you who claims a narrator in yours. Best ask it what you are thinking as you clearly have no idea.

Just sayin - friend to a friend.

No friend of mine as I eschew the gnu on basic principle.

NielsBohr · Post by **NielsBohr** » Thu Aug 07, 2014 7:33 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU
Gnu is Not Unix.

Bill,

I think he cannot bring formally the definition (as I did above), moreover because nobody knows what is the first "Gnu".

Sciences students are originally good at playing with words - unfortunately, this example - recursive on himself - does not extract the truth of its premise.

To tell all:

First of all, we had Multics - an excellent american project, which was about to unify processor, short-lived memory, and mass memory.
But the preceding project was aborted. Then, another - Unix - which brought the MacIntosh, among others, to be schematic.

By the sentence, "Gnu" - a bunch of desperate people - claim against its will that it is similar to Unix (to bring the excellent reputation of the Mac), although different.

After all, we could say that the first Gnu is the animal (symbol of the association).

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