Philosophy Now Forum

Absolutely nothing gets through that selective amnesia, selective reading and confirmation bias of yours does it boob.

There are no average 'Europeans' as its not a national republic like yours in any sense boozo.

Well, you're all socialists, so that's the proof of the pudding right there (and don't say there are some free-market capitalists among you because that's like a few grains of sand in the Sahara desert).

The Guarantee of American freedom of Religion.

Rabis sucking a baby's cock in the US is legal.

Saturday, March 03, 2012
A two-week old boy died at a Brooklyn hospital in September after contracting herpes through a religious circumcision ritual that ignited controversy in 2005 after another infant died, the Daily News has learned.

The unidentified infant died Sept. 28, 2011, at Maimonides Hospital, according to a spokeswoman for the city Medical Examiner, who confirmed the death after a News inquiry.

The cause of death was listed as “disseminated herpes simplex virus Type 1, complicating ritual circumcision with oral suction.”

City officials declined to comment Friday.

It’s unclear who performed the circumcision.

In 2004, city health officials revealed that a baby boy died after a circumcision carried out by a Rockland County rabbi who specializes in the centuries-old, ultra-Orthodox ritual known as metzizah b’ peh.

Under the practice, the rabbi or mohel removes blood from the wound with his mouth — a practice city health officials have criticized, saying it carried “inherent risks” for babies.

In 2004, three infants circumcised by Rabbi Yitzchok Fischer were determined to have contracted herpes, city officials said.

Among them were twins circumcised in October 2004 after Fischer performed the religious ceremony known as a bris.

Extract from "God is Not Great", C. Hitchens.


I pose a hypothetical question. As a man of some fifty- seven years of age, I am discovered sucking the penis of a baby boy. I ask you to picture your own outrage and revulsion. Ah, but I have my explanation all ready. I am a mohel: an appointed circumciser and foreskin remover. My authority comes from an ancient text, which commands me to take a baby boy's penis in my hand, cut around the prepuce, and complete the action by taking his penis in my mouth, sucking off the foreskin, and spitting out the amputated flap along with a mouthful of blood and saliva. This practice has been abandoned by most Jews, either because of its unhygienic nature or its disturbing associations, but it still persists among the sort of Hasidic fundamentalists who hope for the Second Temple to be rebuilt in Jerusalem. To them, the primitive rite of the peri'ah metsitsah is part of the original and unbreakable covenant with god. In New York City in the year 2005, the ritual, as performed by a fifty-seven-year-old mohel, was found to have given genital herpes to several small boys, and to have caused the deaths of at least two of them. In normal circumstances, the disclosure would have led the public health department to forbid the practice and the mayor to denounce it. But in the capital of the modern world, in the first decade of the twenty-first century, such was not the case. Instead, Mayor Bloomberg overrode the reports by distinguished Jewish physicians who had warned of the danger of the custom, and told his health care bureaucracy to postpone any verdict. The crucial thing, he said, was to be sure that the free exercise of religion was not being infringed. In a public debate with Peter Steinfels, the liberal Catholic "religion editor" of the New York Times, I was told the same thing.

This crime of religious freedom continues....

Full Story

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/08/nyreg ... itual.html

i am a little puzzled by the concept of religious freedom

lets say we have no freedom of religion

people can still get together in a church that is covered by freedom of association

people can still tell others about god and pray to god and so forth that is covered by freedom of expression

they can even advocate for political changes and use scripture as their justification - same freedoms that would allow an atheist to advocate for political changes and use hitchens' books for justification would allow it

so what does freedom of religion add

It seems that in the US, it adds the right for a Rabbi to suck a baby's cock.
It trumps child protection.

Hey, Chaz, have you alerted the news media to this outrageous Jewish pedophilic behavior? They all seem to be totally unaware of what's going on.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/08/nyreg ... itual.html

The New York Times said "Page not found." Oh, you can do better than that.

It's not my fault that your Internet provider has CENSORED your content.
Anti-religious material is routinely banned from view.
If you lived in a free country then you would be able to see the harm religion does.

Just for Bob whose Provider does not like anti-religion facts being shared.
Is your ISP Jewish?


Saturday, March 03, 2012
A two-week old boy died at a Brooklyn hospital in September after contracting herpes through a religious circumcision ritual that ignited controversy in 2005 after another infant died, the Daily News has learned.

The unidentified infant died Sept. 28, 2011, at Maimonides Hospital, according to a spokeswoman for the city Medical Examiner, who confirmed the death after a News inquiry.

The cause of death was listed as “disseminated herpes simplex virus Type 1, complicating ritual circumcision with oral suction.”

City officials declined to comment Friday.

It’s unclear who performed the circumcision.

In 2004, city health officials revealed that a baby boy died after a circumcision carried out by a Rockland County rabbi who specializes in the centuries-old, ultra-Orthodox ritual known as metzizah b’ peh.

Under the practice, the rabbi or mohel removes blood from the wound with his mouth — a practice city health officials have criticized, saying it carried “inherent risks” for babies.

In 2004, three infants circumcised by Rabbi Yitzchok Fischer were determined to have contracted herpes, city officials said.

Among them were twins circumcised in October 2004 after Fischer performed the religious ceremony known as a bris.

No, dum-dum, the New York Times site said your stupid link couldn't be found.

there is no censorship going on

you posted an incomplete url:


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/08/nyreg


no need to blame the jews

Chaz blames everybody except himself for everything.