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omfg

an elderly great aunt who is probably suffering from a dementia of some sort was over for dinner tonight

so was my boyfriend

she took one look at him and said that she is glad that at least i am not dating a jew (my bf is black)

and then proceeded to deliver a tirade about how horrible the jews are

even my father who is rarely at a loss for words when someone says something totally retarded - usually something along the lines of 'shut your fucking pie hole moron' - was at a total loss for words

my bf was the first to speaking he said we are going out for a pizza and took me by the hand and led me out the door

then i burst into tears

he spent most of the night calming me down

he does that a lot sometimes i wonder why he puts up with me

i am crying again

fuck

Look at this way Kayla, you're not responsible for the thoughts and actions of your elders. If you want to reconcile this then try to look for the positive intention behind her words, i.e. she is or was a racist and was trying through her love for you to find a way not to be as such towards your boyfriend. At least she was trying and the elderly often don't bother. This reminds me of my father-in-law when we were told that my baby son was downs syndrome, he was trying hard to think of something to console us in our shock, "Never mind" he said, "It could have been worse, he could have been a mongoloid", I LMFAO.

By-the-by, she's not racist in this matter, she's a religious bigot, as the Jews are not a race.

Given your age I think its probably the hormones, bear-up, it will get better. Do not put yourself down, think about the positive attributes you show as the reason why he 'puts up with you'.

From Wikipedia: "Judaism shares some of the characteristics of a nation, an ethnicity, a religion, and a culture, making the definition of who is a Jew vary slightly depending on whether a religious or national approach to identity is used". I believe the term "ethnicity" refers to race.

Kayla, in that situation I too would have hoped that your father would try to pacify your elderly great aunt, change the subject or tell her in a strong manner to stop. Unfortunately she continued unabated, which then upset you. I would not worry about your boyfriend, he spent the time with you to calm you down and make sure you were ok - he didn't have to do that.

I was going to troop out the party line that people get more conservative as they get older then I spotted a magazine article, http://www.livescience.com/2360-busting-myth-people-turn-liberal-age.html, on an American Sociological Review October 2007 paper about people actually getting more liberal with age however

' "What we believe has happened, at least for the race relations, is that the older group, starting out at a position of significantly more negative feelings, had further to go," Danigelis told LiveScience'.

Your elderly great aunt may have different values from you, perhaps from her upbringing or life experience, and so, as the article suggests, may have 'further to go'.

To avoid similar upsetting situations in the future, a member of your family may wish to speak to your elderly great aunt, explaining that she upset you and why.

I invite you to read the notice at the top of http://church-of-ouzo.com/, which may help you understand why the family of a white girl may be upset at the prospect of becoming related to a black boy.

bob it does not help sorry

my parents actually do not have a problem with me dating a black boy or my twin brother dating a black girl (my bf's sister) or with our older brother having a chinese fiancee

and recently my little brother and his best friend - a little east indian girl - both aged 5 - announced that they are going to get married when they grow up

some 'concerned' friends and family have expressed their concerns that at this rate none of my parents' grandkids will be white although i am not sure why this is a concern so my father yelled at them telling them that they are cocksucking morons or words to that effect so no one expressed such concerns in hsi presence now

my parents standards have nothing to do with race and everything to do with respectability

i am expressly forbidden to date anyone who wears his baseball hat backwards or has facial tatoos

in general as long as our dates look like they would not stand out in a predominantly but not exclusively white baptist church in an affluent neighbourhood actual skin color does not matter

if i brought home a wigger boy who speaks like yo dawg! he would be shown the door in nanoseconds no matter how white his skin was heck my parents would rather i dated another girl than someone like that

The inscription I mentioned earlier applies to any reservations your famility has, not just race.

The boozo appears to share a fairly common trait of the godbothering white christian Yank, i.e. along with being a religious bigot he's also a racist.

Maybe a quote from his favourite source will help him question his belief, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_group. (Although I accept that the term in Yankland is just a cover for their racism.)

Still, lets say it won't and we accept his idea of race, then he'd have to explain how one can become black in the same way one can become Jewish? Or maybe he thinks that the Ethiopian Jews prove that all Jews are black?

The he/she (care to take a stand one way or another?) protests too much. I stand by the Wikipedia statement.

But which wiki statement does the boozo stand by, the one he interprets with his own belief or the one that contradicts his belief?

Still, yet another excellent example of bozo's - sorry boozo's - selective and confirmational approach to thinking. Do we see boozo address the problem in his thoughts about how one can become a black man given that he says ethnicity applies to the Jews and makes them a race the same way as he thinks the black man is, as we can all become Jews(hard but not impossible).

Why doesn't he/she read the entire Wikipedia article before making his/her stupid statements?

Is the boozo about to make a philosophical point!

Is the he/she about to make any point whatsoever? No, I don't think so since he/she has never made one yet, and I don't think that's going to change!

What would Jesus do?

He would have his father send them to Hell?