'Oh, give me a home, where the buffalo roam, and the deer and the antelope play.'Hobbes' Choice wrote:Sadly Americans don't know the difference.Walker wrote:Buffaloes are in Asia.Dalek Prime wrote:You gents had to import eagles from Canada, because you killed most of them. Same as buffalo. We had to take in your retired cavalry horses because you were going to slaughter them as useless.
Bison are in North America.
Buffalo sounds cooler though. Bison Bill lacks panache.
Like where the fuck did Buffalo Bill live? Singapore?
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They have antelopes in the US?Dalek Prime wrote: 'Oh, give me a home, where the buffalo roam, and the deer and the antelope play.'
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No. But like the bison, they call the pronghorn an antelope. So that's two mislabeled animals.vegetariantaxidermy wrote:They have antelopes in the US?Dalek Prime wrote: 'Oh, give me a home, where the buffalo roam, and the deer and the antelope play.'
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So they were poorly educated back then too.Dalek Prime wrote:No. But like the bison, they call the pronghorn an antelope. So that's two mislabeled animals.vegetariantaxidermy wrote:They have antelopes in the US?Dalek Prime wrote: 'Oh, give me a home, where the buffalo roam, and the deer and the antelope play.'
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Seems to be the case.vegetariantaxidermy wrote:So they were poorly educated back then too.Dalek Prime wrote:No. But like the bison, they call the pronghorn an antelope. So that's two mislabeled animals.vegetariantaxidermy wrote: They have antelopes in the US?
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Since eagles don’t follow the rules of rule writers, the ethical action for the rule writers is to write new rules that dismantle the silly windmills that are killing the eagles. In response to death that they cause the rule writers say to the eagles, your death is acceptable within our parameters. Therefore evolve or die, sucker.Philosophy Explorer wrote:Wishful thinking you say. You seem to have a pessimistic view of government. Let me know when you come up with hard evidence as to how many more eagles would die under the proposed changes. And btw, I don't equate animal life with human life as humans do care - can you say the same about animals?Walker wrote:By the reasoning you quoted, wishful thinking justifies killing eagles.
The practicality of windmills is wishful thinking. This is why the industrial revolution replaced wind power.
What if wishful thinking determines that a certain number of human deaths are acceptable for a rosy future.
Oh, wait a minute …
Wishful thinking for the future is sometimes the determinate of irrevocable death in the present, but always for another individual eagle than the rule-writer.
Hummm.
People can find other ways to turn on their little machines without erecting irresponsible totem poles across the landscape, worshiping the goodness of the weather and themselves.
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Apparently my rebuttal is very good since you're trying twice to rebutt it.Walker wrote:Since eagles don’t follow the rules of rule writers, the ethical action for the rule writers is to write new rules that dismantle the silly windmills that are killing the eagles. In response to death that they cause the rule writers say to the eagles, your death is acceptable within our parameters. Therefore evolve or die, sucker.Philosophy Explorer wrote:Wishful thinking you say. You seem to have a pessimistic view of government. Let me know when you come up with hard evidence as to how many more eagles would die under the proposed changes. And btw, I don't equate animal life with human life as humans do care - can you say the same about animals?Walker wrote:By the reasoning you quoted, wishful thinking justifies killing eagles.
The practicality of windmills is wishful thinking. This is why the industrial revolution replaced wind power.
What if wishful thinking determines that a certain number of human deaths are acceptable for a rosy future.
Oh, wait a minute …
Wishful thinking for the future is sometimes the determinate of irrevocable death in the present, but always for another individual eagle than the rule-writer.
Hummm.
People can find other ways to turn on their little machines without erecting irresponsible totem poles across the landscape, worshiping the goodness of the weather and themselves.
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You're just repeating yourself in trying to clarify your position. So far you still haven't rebutted my rebuttal.
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Sounds kinda nasty. Time for Frank. Zappa.
Truth is, I've forgotten whatever might have been in your noggin.
Metaphorically, and with kind humor:
The Mighty Eagle is under attack. That is serious business.
Whose hair looks like Defender Duck?
Truth is, I've forgotten whatever might have been in your noggin.
Metaphorically, and with kind humor:
The Mighty Eagle is under attack. That is serious business.
Whose hair looks like Defender Duck?
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I happen to like the eagle too, but I think you're going overboard about it.Walker wrote:Sounds kinda nasty. Time for Frank. Zappa.
Truth is, I've forgotten whatever might have been in your noggin.
Metaphorically, and with kind humor:
The Mighty Eagle is under attack. That is serious business.
Whose hair looks like Defender Duck?
PhilX
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If you were an Eagle you would drop your period right where that comma is, and skip the rest.Philosophy Explorer wrote:I happen to like the eagle too, but I think you're going overboard about it.Walker wrote:Sounds kinda nasty. Time for Frank. Zappa.
Truth is, I've forgotten whatever might have been in your noggin.
Metaphorically, and with kind humor:
The Mighty Eagle is under attack. That is serious business.
Whose hair looks like Defender Duck?
PhilX
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But I'm not, but I can think of better places to drop periods.Walker wrote:If you were an Eagle you would drop your period right where that comma is, and skip the rest.Philosophy Explorer wrote:I happen to like the eagle too, but I think you're going overboard about it.Walker wrote:Sounds kinda nasty. Time for Frank. Zappa.
Truth is, I've forgotten whatever might have been in your noggin.
Metaphorically, and with kind humor:
The Mighty Eagle is under attack. That is serious business.
Whose hair looks like Defender Duck?
PhilX
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Yes, you are not. Clearly.Philosophy Explorer wrote:But I'm not, but I can think of better places to drop periods.Walker wrote:If you were an Eagle you would drop your period right where that comma is, and skip the rest.Philosophy Explorer wrote:
I happen to like the eagle too, but I think you're going overboard about it.
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But being what you are, you theoretically have the imaginative capacity to put yourself into the eagles’ situation. By so doing surely you can contemplate cause of death by idiots.
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Eagles wouldn't know anything about idiots. And I wouldn't put myself into their situation. Why don't you set up a place where they can have a safe haven?Walker wrote:Yes, you are not. Clearly.Philosophy Explorer wrote:But I'm not, but I can think of better places to drop periods.Walker wrote: If you were an Eagle you would drop your period right where that comma is, and skip the rest.
PhilX
But being what you are, you theoretically have the imaginative capacity to put yourself into the eagles’ situation. By so doing surely you can contemplate cause of death by idiots.
PhilX
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Tell that to an eagle as its being killed by a windmill.
(Yes, I know, you don't speak eagle.)
Cost benefit is way off. Run the numbers if you can't see it in death,
and are too callous to empathize with life by putting yourself in the eagles' position.
Zoos have been getting bad press lately.
(Yes, I know, you don't speak eagle.)
Cost benefit is way off. Run the numbers if you can't see it in death,
and are too callous to empathize with life by putting yourself in the eagles' position.
Zoos have been getting bad press lately.
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I'll let you talk to the eagles since you seem to be the expert on them.Walker wrote:Tell that to an eagle as its being killed by a windmill.
Cost benefit is way off. Run the numbers if you can't see it in death,
and are too callous to empathize with life by putting yourself in the eagles' position.
Zoos have been getting bad press lately.
PhilX