Issue 121 - Radical Theories of Consciousness

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Issue 121 - Radical Theories of Consciousness

Post by RickLewis » Sun Aug 27, 2017 1:09 pm

Hi folks,

If you are on your summer vacation, then I hope you are having a wonderful time. No doubt as you lie upon your sunlounger gazing up at the azure sky, even the swaying trees and the golden sun itself seem to smile benevolently down upon you.

What better than to repay their kind interest by reading in the Aug/Sept issue of Philosophy Now magazine about panpsychism, the theory that EVERYTHING is conscious?

Our issue on radical theories of consciousness has been guest edited by Dr Philip Goff, who has also contributed a piece arguing for panpsychism. Other philosophers he has rounded up for this issue include Sam Coleman on neutral monism; Hedda Hassel Mørch on the Integrated Information Theory of Consciousness (IIT); and Kelvin McQueen on whether consciousness can cause quantum collapse. We also have a courteously sceptical response to panpsychism by Prof. Raymond Tallis. Philip Goff's editorial is here:
https://philosophynow.org/issues/121/Ca ... sciousness

I would like to record my sincere thanks to Philip Goff and his colleagues for their fascinating contributions. The editorial board thanks them too; so does the magazine itself, and so even does the paper that forms its material substrate. So do the individual cellulose molecules, though obviously in a very basic fashion.

Elsewhere in this issue we have pieces on Leibniz and the Big Bang (Eric Kincanon); on what philosophy of language can tell us about Trump's speeches (Gavaler & Goldberg), on the further history of sexuality (Benson) and on Luther and Feurerbach (Van Harvey).

I won't introduce a vulgarly commercial note into this posting by telling you how ludicrously cheap Philosophy Now subscriptions are, as you can see that from our website. I'll merely mention that individual print subscriptions include website access to more than 2,500 articles from our past issues. That ought to give you enough light reading for the rest of this vacation!

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Re: Issue 121 - Radical Theories of Consciousness

Post by attofishpi » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:51 am

Philip Goff wrote:The mystery of consciousness is not what consciousness is, but why it is.
Interesting that Phillip used WHY instead of HOW.

'Why' suggests there is a purpose - an extension of reason, for the universe, and ultimately our consciousness.
'How' purely resonates with reason, 'as to?'

To suggest everything has consciousness, such as a grain of sand, then implies, that there is an intelligence behind the very makeup of what we experience as our reality, this grain of sand is made up of millions perhaps billions of atoms which are comprised of subatomic particles all doing their bit to construct this grain of sand such that the other atoms, those within our brains and bodies can sense that it exists...dare I go further?
If I do - then I will talk about the 'digital universe' and the backbone 'algorithm' to IT.

Philip Goff wrote:..many scientists and philosophers maintain optimism that materialism will prevail, and that the Holy Grail of a purely physical explanation of consciousness is just around the corner.
What is purely physical? Sure in our reality, we use mathematics and mathematical models formulas to denote what we can experience into a logical framework. But as Philip mentions, what IS the taste of paprika and how can such a thing be modelled by such methods?

Philip Goff wrote:..And if sensory qualities can’t be captured in a mathematical vocabulary, it seemed to follow that a mathematical vocabulary could never capture the complete nature of matter.
Perhaps because (and not purely restricted to) we are missing a HUGE part of the equation in Dark Energy\Matter.

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Re: Issue 121 - Radical Theories of Consciousness

Post by Harbal » Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:51 pm

attofishpi wrote:
Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:51 am
dare I go further?
Well I hope you find the courage, Fishy. The further you go the better. Don't forget to wave goodbye.

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Re: Issue 121 - Radical Theories of Consciousness

Post by attofishpi » Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:48 am

Harbal wrote:
Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:51 pm
attofishpi wrote:
Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:51 am
dare I go further?
Well I hope you find the courage, Fishy. The further you go the better. Don't forget to wave goodbye.
No, I think i'm a WIMP at the core of my consciousness...and this fish is sick of waves, currents, sultanas, r.ai.sins.

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Re: Issue 121 - Radical Theories of Consciousness

Post by GreatandWiseTrixie » Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:14 pm

I have very little interest in speculations unless they are new material and help me think in new and interesting ways.

Panpsychicism is old hat and has no evidence. It is not a theory. Theories require facts to back them up. Debating the consciousness of rocks is uninteresting to me.

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