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Re: An education worth dying for.

Post by thedoc » Fri Jun 02, 2017 9:16 pm

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Fri Jun 02, 2017 1:07 pm
and you have more knowledge than your boss, although not necessarily in the specific power games that come with the tribalism of his/her particularly structured work environment.
That is where I got in trouble and eventually got fired from the job, it wasn't that I wasn't good at drawing, but I wouldn't kiss ass, so I didn't fit in with everyone else.

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Re: An education worth dying for.

Post by Harbal » Fri Jun 02, 2017 9:21 pm

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Fri Jun 02, 2017 9:10 pm
I was working on some drawings for an overhead crane
I imagine one of the advantages of working for a crane is that your employer is in a good position to give you a raise.
I pointed out that the proper way to spec. for flanged wheels on rails, was to specify the gauge of the rails and let everything else up to the contractor.
Sounds like a really exciting job, doc, what an interesting guy you are.

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Re: An education worth dying for.

Post by Philosophy Explorer » Fri Jun 02, 2017 9:36 pm

I have a scientist's POV. In science you must have assumptions to start with, but can modify when there is evidence to do so.

In sales, to the present day, assumptions exist which have no basis in reality and actually hinder sales. For example it's assumed that there are natural-born salesmen. I know for a fact that it isn't so and I have easily trained others to increase their sales (plus me). The method is so effective it can create new monopolies which I have no desire to do, otherwise industries and competition would vaporize within a year.

There are many stories behind this. I can say my eyes are opened wide.

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Re: An education worth dying for.

Post by Philosophy Explorer » Fri Jun 02, 2017 9:47 pm

Harbal,

Have you ever been to college?

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Re: An education worth dying for.

Post by thedoc » Fri Jun 02, 2017 10:07 pm

Philosophy Explorer wrote:
Fri Jun 02, 2017 9:47 pm
Harbal,

Have you ever been to college?

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From the content of his posts, I doubt that he graduated HS, and he got all his education from MAD Magazine.

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Re: An education worth dying for.

Post by Philosophy Explorer » Fri Jun 02, 2017 10:42 pm

thedoc wrote:
Fri Jun 02, 2017 10:07 pm
Philosophy Explorer wrote:
Fri Jun 02, 2017 9:47 pm
Harbal,

Have you ever been to college?

PhilX
From the content of his posts, I doubt that he graduated HS, and he got all his education from MAD Magazine.
If so doc, I would say there's room for substantial improvement.

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Re: An education worth dying for.

Post by thedoc » Fri Jun 02, 2017 10:47 pm

Philosophy Explorer wrote:
Fri Jun 02, 2017 10:42 pm
thedoc wrote:
Fri Jun 02, 2017 10:07 pm
Philosophy Explorer wrote:
Fri Jun 02, 2017 9:47 pm
Harbal,

Have you ever been to college?

PhilX
From the content of his posts, I doubt that he graduated HS, and he got all his education from MAD Magazine.
If so doc, I would say there's room for substantial improvement.

PhilX
I would think that we, and almost everyone else would agree with that.

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Re: An education worth dying for.

Post by Harbal » Fri Jun 02, 2017 10:47 pm

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Fri Jun 02, 2017 10:42 pm
I would say there's room for substantial improvement.
We can't all be experts on flanged wheels, Phil.

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Re: An education worth dying for.

Post by Philosophy Explorer » Fri Jun 02, 2017 10:52 pm

Harbal wrote:
Fri Jun 02, 2017 10:47 pm
Philosophy Explorer wrote:
Fri Jun 02, 2017 10:42 pm
I would say there's room for substantial improvement.
We can't all be experts on flanged wheels, Phil.
Did you know part of a flanged wheel is always moving backwards while the train moves forward?

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Re: An education worth dying for.

Post by Harbal » Fri Jun 02, 2017 10:59 pm

Philosophy Explorer wrote:
Fri Jun 02, 2017 10:52 pm

Did you know part of a flanged wheel is always moving backwards while the train moves forward?
Yes but did you know part of a flanged wheel is always moving forwards while the train moves backwards?

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Re: An education worth dying for.

Post by Philosophy Explorer » Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:03 pm

Harbal wrote:
Fri Jun 02, 2017 10:59 pm
Philosophy Explorer wrote:
Fri Jun 02, 2017 10:52 pm

Did you know part of a flanged wheel is always moving backwards while the train moves forward?
Yes but did you know part of a flanged wheel is always moving forwards while the train moves backwards?
And did you know the top part of the wheel is moving faster than the bottom part of the wheel?

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Re: An education worth dying for.

Post by Harbal » Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:12 pm

Philosophy Explorer wrote:
Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:03 pm

And did you know the top part of the wheel is moving faster than the bottom part of the wheel?

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I never really thought about it, Phil, and if you don't mind, I don't really want to start thinking about it now.

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Re: An education worth dying for.

Post by Philosophy Explorer » Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:14 pm

Harbal wrote:
Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:12 pm
Philosophy Explorer wrote:
Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:03 pm

And did you know the top part of the wheel is moving faster than the bottom part of the wheel?

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I never really thought about it, Phil, and if you don't mind, I don't really want to start thinking about it now.
No problem Harb.

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Re: An education worth dying for.

Post by Walker » Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:19 pm

Good ol’government school system.

The kid in the picture certainly looks "horrified", as the caption says. :shock:
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/edu ... -1.3213718

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Re: An education worth dying for.

Post by thedoc » Sat Jun 03, 2017 2:27 am

Philosophy Explorer wrote:
Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:14 pm
Harbal wrote:
Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:12 pm
Philosophy Explorer wrote:
Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:03 pm

And did you know the top part of the wheel is moving faster than the bottom part of the wheel?

PhilX
I never really thought about it, Phil, and if you don't mind, I don't really want to start thinking about it now.
No problem Harb.

PhilX
Did you know that railroad wheels have a flange and a tapered tread, and the flange rarely touches the rail head. With a tapered thread the wheel centers itself on straight sections, and only on the sharpest curves does the flange touch the rail.

During the late 80's one model Mfg. had the bright idea to make their treads flat while everyone else was using a tapered tread. It didn't last long till they figured out what they did wrong and corrected it.

You're welcome for the headache it may have caused.

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