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Post by thedoc » Sun Mar 15, 2015 6:56 pm

Bill Wiltrack wrote:.

Exactly.


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Well I'm glad someone understood that. Now could you explain it to me?

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Post by Bill Wiltrack » Mon Mar 16, 2015 9:43 pm

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We are beings of contradictions.

Our hope is false and our understandings are flawed.

Up is down; down is up.

Yes is no and ALL intellectual positions can, and are, supported.

Everything must exist in our black & white worlds that MUST include ALL shades of grey.

If that doesn't make sense to you - that is good. We understand nothing.





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Post by Melchior » Mon Mar 16, 2015 10:03 pm

Bill Wiltrack wrote:.


I thank ALL of your very spirited & well thought-out responses.

LOVE this topic. Been here before.

Again, we don't know why we are here nor where we came from. We cannot know anything.


...but metaphors seem to allow us to feel as if we can understand a bit of something.

Thoughts, words, images, create a post to tie feelings to.


Thank you for tying some of your thoughts here.



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Post by David Handeye » Mon Mar 16, 2015 10:12 pm

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I didn't understand the last sentence

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Post by GreatandWiseTrixie » Tue Mar 17, 2015 7:08 pm

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Take your meds, calm down. Bill isn't worth all that nonsense.

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Post by Bill Wiltrack » Tue Mar 17, 2015 8:00 pm

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Don't want to appear to be disrespectful but I believe a few of the active members who responded here have lost the extremely focused philosophical message that I hope to convey. I will assume the mis-communication is my fault but still I feel I must resubmit my original post here:



None of know where we came from...or why we are here.

If we think we understand ANYTHING we can be sure we are wrong.


For some reason, the most important thing to us as human beings is metaphors.


For instance a post here upon a forum is a place where you can temporally tie a thought onto this extremely fluid multidimensional continuum that we find ourselves in. Just as an individual would temporally tie a horse to a wooden post.


The thoughts are temporally accepted to be correct or at least open to debate and further clarification.


Metaphors...thoughtful metaphors allow us to project a meaning where there actually is none.



Hope this helps & I appreciate ALL of the responses I have received upon this post thus far.




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Post by thedoc » Tue Mar 17, 2015 8:50 pm

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Could you repeat that without mumbling?

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Post by Melchior » Tue Mar 17, 2015 8:52 pm

thedoc wrote:
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Post by Arising_uk » Tue Mar 17, 2015 11:23 pm

Bill Wiltrack wrote:.
None of know where we came from...or why we are here.
Don't know about you but I came from my parents.
If we think we understand ANYTHING we can be sure we are wrong.
Then you must be sure that either you don't understand what you've said or you can be sure it is wrong.
For some reason, the most important thing to us as human beings is metaphors.
Not 'the' but an important part of communication.
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The thoughts are temporally accepted to be correct or at least open to debate and further clarification.
Apart from yours of course.
Metaphors...thoughtful metaphors allow us to project a meaning where there actually is none.
Then you don't understand metaphor.

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Post by GreatandWiseTrixie » Wed Mar 18, 2015 11:27 am

Bill Wiltrack wrote:.




Don't want to appear to be disrespectful but I believe a few of the active members who responded here have lost the extremely focused philosophical message that I hope to convey. I will assume the mis-communication is my fault but still I feel I must resubmit my original post here:



None of know where we came from...or why we are here.

If we think we understand ANYTHING we can be sure we are wrong.


For some reason, the most important thing to us as human beings is metaphors.


For instance a post here upon a forum is a place where you can temporally tie a thought onto this extremely fluid multidimensional continuum that we find ourselves in. Just as an individual would temporally tie a horse to a wooden post.


The thoughts are temporally accepted to be correct or at least open to debate and further clarification.


Metaphors...thoughtful metaphors allow us to project a meaning where there actually is none.



Hope this helps & I appreciate ALL of the responses I have received upon this post thus far.




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dude why do you use big font EVeRY post.

as far as the human species goes I'd say metaphors are one of their good contributions to language. Humans like to connect the dots, and metaphors are a healthy way to explain things to people who are confused and not understanding. However connecting the dots can be taken too far, like in religious people who see the number 24 everywhere and say the number 24 proves the existence of jesusbread.

Some bad contributions of humans to language are obsessions with binaries, double talk, double meaning, and using made-up percentages to sound "scientific". The syntax is also incredibly inconsistent as well.

"Yes is no and ALL intellectual positions can, and are, supported."

While it's true that I recognize and agree with most of the truths proclaimed by the great philosophers, for example Pythagorean helped define the musical scales that we use today. However much of his lore was filled with superstitious rubbish, which can't be supported. The problem with delusion is that it seems true to the viewer and noone else. The thing about delusion is while it seems true to the viewer, it contradicts other things the viewer believes to be true, causing logical contradictions in the viewer, even to his or her self. Like how religious people say The Lord is good and genocide is not good, even though The Lord committed genocide. Or how religious people claim to be good people even though The Bible says not to eat pork because pigs are sentient, intelligent and passed the mirror test. Instead you have to listen to these retards sing their dumb gospel music and chime on about how good they have it, thanking God for their stupid lives, I've heard music from the depths of hell that sounds better than this shit.

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Post by Arising_uk » Thu Mar 19, 2015 12:15 am

GreatandWiseTrixie wrote:dude why do you use big font EVeRY post.
He thinks it adds import and makes up for the shortage of thought and hopefully hides the confusion and contradiction or that he's just another gnu.

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Post by David Handeye » Thu Mar 19, 2015 12:59 pm

what's gnu?

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Post by Ginkgo » Thu Mar 19, 2015 1:07 pm

David Handeye wrote:what's gnu?
Would some examples suffice?

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Post by thedoc » Thu Mar 19, 2015 1:26 pm

Ginkgo wrote:
David Handeye wrote:what's gnu?
Would some examples suffice?
GYC, Gnu Rochelle, Gnu Kingstown.

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Post by Arising_uk » Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:43 pm

David Handeye wrote:what's gnu?
Gnu(noun) - a budding guru, now-a-days most usually found upon the Interweeb seeking acolytes. Can be identified by their utterance of meaningless or contradictory aphorisms and vague and meaningless nonsense about a hidden 'Truth' or 'Reality' always just out of reach. Common traits, an inability to answer sentences with question marks, acute selective reading ability, massive belief confirmation bias, ad-hominen psycho-babble and a complete inability to walk their talk or even talk their walk. Be wary of such beasts. Preventative vaccination advised, i.e. a study of Philosophy, in particular a dose of critical philosophy and Logic as practiced in Philosophy now-a-days.

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