Nothing can be Known about Knowing.

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Nothing can be Known about Knowing.

Post by Dontaskme » Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:29 am

The whole cannot be known by it's parts... yet the parts are known by the whole.

Science always relies on Proofs. How to go about proving the above facts?

A part can never comprehend the whole, it is impossible because A part, is never apart from the whole. It's something like, you can never lift your own self (Whole) using your own hands (Parts).

Godel's Incompleteness Theorem is perfectly applicable in this case. Anything said or spoken or written will always remain partial and limited. As Consciousness is Limitless for our present configuration and dimension, it may remain beyond our comprehension and understanding FOR EVER, AND FOR EVER.

There is no QUESTION about YOU. There is NO WAY to question the condition about BEING.

YOU already are the unconditional pre-existing condition FOR A QUESTION TO EMERGE. So, you are already the ANSWER.

You are the Imagination of yourself. To Dream or Imagine ....'IT' has to be Intelligent. Consciousness may be the cosmic Intelligence, the sole creator of everything in it's Realm.


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Re: Nothing can be Known about Knowing.

Post by surreptitious57 » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:46 pm

Nothing in science can generally be proven only disproven and science
mainly relies upon evidence since it is primarily an inductive discipline

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Re: Nothing can be Known about Knowing.

Post by Dontaskme » Wed Sep 20, 2017 3:20 pm

How can you know yourself? You would have to split yourself up in two, the knower and the known.

Mind mostly doesn't like the pointer of all-inclusiveness, what can it do with it?

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Re: Nothing can be Known about Knowing.

Post by waechter418 » Wed Sep 20, 2017 4:55 pm

Dontaskme wrote:
Wed Sep 20, 2017 3:20 pm

Mind mostly doesn't like the pointer of all-inclusiveness, what can it do with it?

Relax and enjoy itself :)

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Re: Nothing can be Known about Knowing.

Post by Dontaskme » Wed Sep 20, 2017 6:38 pm

waechter418 wrote:
Wed Sep 20, 2017 4:55 pm
Dontaskme wrote:
Wed Sep 20, 2017 3:20 pm

Mind mostly doesn't like the pointer of all-inclusiveness, what can it do with it?

Relax and enjoy itself :)
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Re: Nothing can be Known about Knowing.

Post by SpheresOfBalance » Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:46 pm

Dontaskme wrote:
Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:29 am
The whole cannot be known by it's parts... yet the parts are known by the whole.
A falsehood!


Science always relies on Proofs. How to go about proving the above facts?

A part can never comprehend the whole, it is impossible because A part, is never apart from the whole. It's something like, you can never lift your own self (Whole) using your own hands (Parts).

Godel's Incompleteness Theorem is perfectly applicable in this case. Anything said or spoken or written will always remain partial and limited. As Consciousness is Limitless for our present configuration and dimension, it may remain beyond our comprehension and understanding FOR EVER, AND FOR EVER.

There is no QUESTION about YOU. There is NO WAY to question the condition about BEING.

YOU already are the unconditional pre-existing condition FOR A QUESTION TO EMERGE. So, you are already the ANSWER.

You are the Imagination of yourself. To Dream or Imagine ....'IT' has to be Intelligent. Consciousness may be the cosmic Intelligence, the sole creator of everything in it's Realm.


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Re: Nothing can be Known about Knowing.

Post by Dontaskme » Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:16 am

SpheresOfBalance wrote:
Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:46 pm
Dontaskme wrote:
Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:29 am
The whole cannot be known by it's parts... yet the parts are known by the whole.
A falsehood!


Science always relies on Proofs. How to go about proving the above facts?

A part can never comprehend the whole, it is impossible because A part, is never apart from the whole. It's something like, you can never lift your own self (Whole) using your own hands (Parts).

Godel's Incompleteness Theorem is perfectly applicable in this case. Anything said or spoken or written will always remain partial and limited. As Consciousness is Limitless for our present configuration and dimension, it may remain beyond our comprehension and understanding FOR EVER, AND FOR EVER.

There is no QUESTION about YOU. There is NO WAY to question the condition about BEING.

YOU already are the unconditional pre-existing condition FOR A QUESTION TO EMERGE. So, you are already the ANSWER.

You are the Imagination of yourself. To Dream or Imagine ....'IT' has to be Intelligent. Consciousness may be the cosmic Intelligence, the sole creator of everything in it's Realm.


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A part cannot know anything, it is the known, known by the knowing that cannot be known, for the knower, knowing and known are one.

You are that one.

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Re: Nothing can be Known about Knowing.

Post by waechter418 » Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:09 pm

In chapter 9 of "Another view of Consciousness" i formulated it as the following:
(sorry to repeat, but i can`t do it twice)

Unity comprises multiplicity and a corresponding number of possibilities to realize itself. When the possibilities are differentiated, multiplicity is established.

Unity cannot be measured, but only cognized and understood. The unities of measurements are half-measures that can be added up and concealed with unity-terms, but such Selfrealisation-attempts are self-deceptions as they veil the quintessence of unity and thus of SelfConsciousNess.

The dimension of unity can neither be related nor located – but only be experienced.

Dimensions that can be related, are division/multiplication abstructs. They may serve to focus on unity, but cannot effect it, since its time/space is not extended – wherefore unity disappears when manipulated.

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