Harbal wrote: ↑Sat Sep 02, 2017 8:25 pm
We can have knowledge of the verber and the consequences of his verbing can also be known to us.
Verb world is uncreated. Creation is an appearance of the uncreated, known as conception, also known as knowledge,this knowledge is a phantom appearance of the uncreated appearing real...
"having no beginning nor end" implies an uncreated reality.''
Harbal wrote: ↑Sat Sep 02, 2017 8:25 pmDoes it? In what way?
There is no room for a creator to approach that which has no beginning nor end, except as an appearance IN IT. Therefore, any creator is an artificially created imposition on that which has no position.
Harbal wrote: ↑Sat Sep 02, 2017 8:25 pmUntil you divulge what an "uncreated reality" is and explain why it precludes seers and knowers it's not possible to respond to this claim.
An image of a tree is uncreated, an image of a flower is uncreated, people are uncreated, people, trees and flowers do not know they exist. Their existence is created via the artificially imposed concept as and through the instrument of knowing aka the body,mind mechanism as conceived.In other words, nothing created you.
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That there appears, apparently, to be an uncreated you existing, is a mystery.
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