We ARE but only in relation to we ARE NOTBeauty wrote:So do you mean that we are No Thing - emptiness, appearing as Some Thing?
But then if we need to be non-existent then we just become no thing - emptiness again?
We ARE because we know we ARE NOT ...We are aware first, but cannot see or know that. How we become aware of ourselves is as and through what we are aware OF....
It is in the awareness WE ARE ... that all that we are aware OF is seen/known to come and go... (what we are not) which ARE both in the same moment..and must be so if we are to become aware we are aware. But we don't identify with the unchanging part of us, because that cannot be seen, instead, we identify with that which appears to be seen, which is that what we are aware OF .. but what we are aware of is not who we really are.
Our bodies change, our names change, our thoughts, feeling, emotions change, our lives change, nothing we are aware of stays the same. But that which is aware is always and ever the same unchanging awareness.
The awareness that we ARE is inseparable from what we ARE NOT ie: aware OF..
So this is No thing, being every thing.
As awareness we identify with the appearances rather than that with what is aware of all appearances. And that's how we know we ARE...because of the appearances we ARE NOT ..we are both, and yet neither...because everything returns to the one from which it appeared.
Yes indeed, something from something, since nothing can be known of nothing. There has to be something here. But to know what that something IS would be impossible without reference to it's opposite albeit an illusory opposite. All opposites are ONE in the same NOW.. ..otherwise nothing could be known.Beauty wrote:What I am saying is that this emptiness - no thing is also something, so it's something from something, and so you have no argument at all because something and something is the same.
Oneness or Somethingness is not an illusion. Your relationship (the mind/body organism) with it is an illusion.
Human thinking whatever it is or isn't ...appears to superimpose all it's ideas over what is already here/ there.
The body, the organism has no interest in the minds ideas about self, conscious, subconscious, beliefs, emotions, etc, etc, etc. The so-called mind or ''self'', this separative structure is nothing but a functioning mechanism interested in it's own continuity/survival...but that self is a phantom superimposed appearance.
You as you know yourself are not separate from that mechanism because you cannot separate yourself from thought/mind.
And that's how you know yourself, you know yourself as a fictional character, and that in which the fictional character arises is the eternal you.
When you look in a mirror, your reflection is not looking at you, you are looking at your reflection.
The reflection tells you who you are. You are the looker, not what's looked at. What's looked at can't see, it's a mirage. What's seeing, it's what's looking... that ONE can never be seen because it's ONE.... and you are that.
Is this any clearer to you Beauty?