Dubious wrote:JSS wrote:The social promotion of scientists keeps the religiousity and dogmatic propaganda going.
I haven't noticed any of this propagandizing of scientists going on. I hear much more of the media in their constant advertising of sports, politicians, pop and film stars, etc. Science is occasionally mentioned in the news but only if some super breakthrough event happened then it gets the last five minutes of a one hour broadcast.
Have you bothered to examine the content of TV shows and films, not merely the noticeable commercials or "news" events? People do not gain their beliefs through rational explanations, but through subtle affectance on their desires.
Certainly you have heard of "product placement" and "subliminal advertising"? That was old technology merely for selling products to a formerly capitalist population. Why stop with selling products? Why not sell policy and mindset ("feminism, socialism, racism, atheism, scientism,...")? If you examine the content, you will see NOTHING BUT propaganda with which to program the masses into PCness, conformity.
Dubious wrote:JSS wrote:Learn what logic is really all about and all of that gets straightened out.
I don't think logic is the tool to combine the two great separations of science and philosophy. To accomplish that
they must first have something in common.
Emm.. well yeah...
Dubious wrote:When will the science world receive these revelations which resolve every enigma still pestering physicists. After all the years of explaining it on philosophy forums, someone should have picked up on it by now
That would be a very, very long time from now. Just look at how any new theory is received even on this level where none of these members here really have anything to lose by opening up to something new. Then think about how much gets lost by the science promoters who depend entirely upon the following of the faithful.
Society is nothing but an ego game. And it takes a very long time for egos to fade away. Certainly Christians have heard of science by now. So you must believe that they have all converted, right? How many hundreds of years has it been? How many hundreds of years was Christianity in the make? How about Judaism? Islam? Science is no different in being dogmatic once it acquired its own social ego and pride. There is nothing humble about science. They make progress only through being attacked, defeated, and forgotten. And that takes a whole lot of time. There are still people arguing about whether the Earth is the center of the solar system.
Dubious wrote:JSS wrote:And gravitational waves prove very little of anything. Why Einstein would think that couldn't exist, I don't know.
That's not how physicists see it. After all, it proves the last great prediction of GR and not least, it's total success within its field of predictions...meaning that the universe and Einstein's theories definitely have something in common.
I proved the same thing myself with merely one additional post to this one:
Measuring Existence.
Dubious wrote:Einstein was clearly aware of gravitational waves as a consequence of his theory. When I wrote, Einstein thought could never be proven, it referred to its detection since obviously the instrumentation required would have seemed impossible at the time.
Oh, I see. But then I imagine that perhaps he proposed that it couldn't be proven because he tied time, space, and gravity together too much preventing the notion that a propagation of a gravity field through space was detectable as any different than normal spacetime.