but SOB is in Red
I still want to know of sob: how do You You You You differentiate between what you believe is absolutely true and what is not your belief. ??
You're such a cheeky little bastard, as if the "You" key got stuck on your keyboard. This is not about Me Me Me Me. It just blows my mind that some people use words in such a way that they actually believe it disproves something in nature. I'm just smart enough to realize that when something like that occurs, it's mans words, and not nature that is mistaken, as mans words are merely labels that represent those things found in nature. Mans relative words can never be as potent as the absolute truth of the nature that has allowed man to create such relative words.
One of you vacillating moves is that you speak of the absolute truth that man has uncovered and then speak of how what you know may be merely belief. You have even spoken about how what man has uncovered may also be not absolutely true.
What is this ?
Do I vacillate? Or is that merely your perception, as with your not understanding the context, in which I speak of these modes of mans truth, that you see as contradictory.
I see that you often ask how I can know these truths, as if the knowledge is instantaneous, of that moment, that I am somehow responsible for them. But I assure you, I have nothing to do with it in that moment, and that actually they come from mans history, and are the culmination of much work. My small part is only in their verification, as is everyone's.
Perhaps at least some of the problems of this absolutely true world of yours is due to people not taking responsibility for them.
And, I am honestly asking: how do you? How. By what mechanism, by what synthesis, by what means, what method do you invoke or use, to know of this Ab truth - so I might use your method and thus be able to be as certain as you. Tell me, please. Tell me how you know this.
OK Lance, my old buddy,
let me put you in the hot seat and ask you for your resolve. And let's not make this a vocabulary lesson, OK?
Would you say that you 'believe' the Earth is a spheroid? Why?
If so, is it 'true' that the earth is a spheroid? Why?
If so, is it 'absolutely true' that the earth is a spheroid? Why?
Do you believe that the shape of the Earth, regardless of what anyone calls it, would be the same as it is, at the moment of the asking? Why?
If yes, do you believe that constitutes an absolute truth? Why?
If it is not absolute, what is it? Why?
I can say that it is absolutely true, but as Chaz stated, the term 'absolutely ' is unnecessary and basically meaningless. It is extraneous. I disagree, because of all the falsehood that people try and pass off as truth, as a result we need a qualifier to differentiate what is actual.
It is true with reference to the manner of knowledge by which we understand the universe. Truth is contextual in this way.I disagree, as this is to say that we are removed from the universe, which is not true. In fact, we are of the universe, we are in it, but more importantly, it is in us, so how is it possible that we do not know of the absoluteness that we are children of. We are just a permutation of all that is the universe. It is inside us, each and every one of us.
It is only absolute if I or we were gods and could remove ourselves from our universality sufficiently enough to prove that our knowledge reflects absolutely true knowledge, as if we can know the object in-itself.See my previous, as it answers this as well!