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I’m bewildered as to why there’s so much, though understandably mostly Jewish and Israeli, concern and sometimes outright panic regarding the Obama speech which briefly included a sentence in regards to Israel negotiating peace with Palestinians from a pre-1967-borders point of reference.
Really. I’ve extensively followed the news-media coverage throughout the entire Obama/1967-borders blunder, and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s immediately succeeding outrage – i.e., Not a chance, Obama! – was itself immediately followed by a retraction from Obama, and eventually a what-I-think-Obama-actually-meant from the unconditionally pro-Israel Canadian Prime Minster Stephen Harper.
It depressingly, immorally very much appears that the Palestinians will get naught but what the Israeli government feels like giving them; for, just by observing how the bipartisan U.S. Congress, Senate and presidency unmistakably declared their full support for Israeli and its Jewish-settlement aspirations, Netanyahu appears quite confident that his Israeli team holds all of the cards.

Great, I'll tell them they don't have to worry.

Well they do hold all the nukes.

At some point the people of the US will get tired of their democracy being subverted by wealthy pressure groups, and will demand legal limits on campaign spending. Shortly thereafter the Israel-US money-go-round will start to creak and wobble.
If this happens, Israeli Jews will have a lot to worry about. Like the fact that a particular section of their political leadership has walled them into a ghetto, surrounded by enemies.

Not really, as its unlikely that America will change their political system in the way you describe, or that the christian right will give up their belief in the end-of-times, nor that the US Jew will stop sending the cash. Although the last may not be needed as apparently Israel is about to have an oil resource.

The future is along time.
The American empire is showing some signs of decay, and China is in the ascendent. Arabia still has the oil and its citizens are starting to rebel agains the Western controlled dictators that oppress them. Israel is an historical anachronism, a small island representing an out of date religion based on racist principles in a sea of extremism.
They may think that they hold all the cards but there are a few Jokers in the pack and the Arabs are getting re-deal right now.

That chaz idiot obviously knows nothing of substance about Jews, Judaism, Israel, Arabs, America, or China. It's amazing how idiotic one person can be.

It is easy to thrash out but not so easy to say why you disagree.
When you say something of substance then I might listen, but all I hear now, is a little pig making oinking sounds.

I stick by everything I say.
I'm prepared to defend it point by point.
Care to take the challenge - or do you prefer to wimp out and crawl back under your rock from whence you came?

Unfortunately, the U.S.A. does not operate under the principles of Evensonomics. Under my regime, there would not be a single dollar of American tax money given to any country for any reason. Of course, that's just day one. On day two, all American troops would immediately be brought home, and we would let the rest of the world fight it out with each other. On day three, the U.S. department of education would be eliminated. On day 4, all federal, state and local taxes would be eliminated, and the only tax would be a single tax on property, and distributed accordingly. On day 5, all international trade legislation would be abolished along with all tariffs and quotas, regardless of other countries' trade policies. On day 6, we would leave Cuba since there is not a goddamn lease in the universe that lasts forever, regardless of what any fucking document says. On day 7, well, even God gets a day off, but I'm sure you're beginning to get the picture.

Let's hope you get your way but I doubt it.

The American Energy Party will take over a city, then the county, and then the state. We will then force our will on the federal government or secede from the union. That's when the fireworks start.

@Chaz: You are seriously deluded. You didn't make any sound comments, just assertions that are entirely fabricated in your own imagination. Whatever can be claimed without evidence, may be dismissed without evidence. When you come up with what you think is an intelligent point, be sure to let me know, and I'll shred your opinion with ease. I've seen your feeble mind at work on here, your understanding of mathematics, for example, is pathetic. Pack it up and go home before you get schooled by someone who really does have a brain.

Another idea that you just restate with no substance. Makes three now I think.

No you are the deluded one.
I simply stated matters of fact and it is you that has failed to support your unfounded insults and denials.
You are simply in denial of the truth and have offered NOTHING in support of your scurrilous comments.

Crawl back under your bridge you stinking troll.



The future is along time. FACT

The American empire is showing some signs of decay, and China is in the ascendent. FACT. China is growing, US is in decline. China owns the US.

Arabia still has the oil and its citizens are starting to rebel agains the Western controlled dictators that oppress them.
Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, Syria, Bahrain....


Israel is an historical anachronism, a small island representing an out of date religion based on racist principles in a sea of extremism.
ALL BASIC FACTS.


You might not like it - but that is not a reason to find it untrue.

@Chaz: Seriously? You simply write "fact" after your idiotic claims and that somehow makes them true? Well, just imagine me writing "bullshit" after your claims, making them false. Like I stated before, when you make unfounded assertions, then there us no need to waste any time debunking them. You have yet to get out of the starting blocks, although for someone with an education in "intellectual history," I guess this is the best you can do.