Muslims say; religious freedom for me, but not for thee.

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Muslims say; religious freedom for me, but not for thee.

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Muslims say; religious freedom for me, but not for thee.

The Golden Rule and other reciprocity sayings indicate that what we grant ourselves or some others should also be granted to everyone. This would include the right to critique religions and governments.

Islam and it’s Muslim adherents are quite vocal in denigrating other religions and political system, yet say that others who denigrate Islam and Sharia should be penalized in various ways, --- even unto death.

Where I come from, reciprocity is fair play and all players in a game play by the same rules. Islam and Muslims wants to win the God wars by having different restrictive rules for their interlocutors.

Should we respect and tolerate a religion that denies us the rights and play by the same rules that they enjoy?

If yes, please tell me why we should respect such a religion.

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Greatest I am wrote:Muslims say; religious freedom for me, but not for thee..

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Only SOME Muslims. Most don't give a shit what you believe.

Ultimately all religions end insisting on this. As all religions are the "One True Religion".
Christianity has been the worst of all religions in this respect.
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Hobbes' Choice wrote:
Greatest I am wrote:Muslims say; religious freedom for me, but not for thee..

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Only SOME Muslims. Most don't give a shit what you believe.

Ultimately all religions end insisting on this. As all religions are the "One True Religion".
Christianity has been the worst of all religions in this respect.
I see both Christianity and Islam as both killing apostates and non-believers in the past, but only Islam continues to do so today, since we have brought Christianity to heel.

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Greatest I am wrote:Muslims say; religious freedom for me, but not for thee..

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Only SOME Muslims. Most don't give a shit what you believe.

Ultimately all religions end insisting on this. As all religions are the "One True Religion".
Christianity has been the worst of all religions in this respect.
I see both Christianity and Islam as both killing apostates and non-believers in the past, but only Islam continues to do so today, since we have brought Christianity to heel.

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You are, as usual wrong.
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Hobbes' Choice wrote:
Greatest I am wrote:
Hobbes' Choice wrote:
Only SOME Muslims. Most don't give a shit what you believe.

Ultimately all religions end insisting on this. As all religions are the "One True Religion".
Christianity has been the worst of all religions in this respect.
I see both Christianity and Islam as both killing apostates and non-believers in the past, but only Islam continues to do so today, since we have brought Christianity to heel.

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You are, as usual wrong.
Thanks for the enlightening argument showing where I erred.

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Greatest I am wrote:
Hobbes' Choice wrote:
Greatest I am wrote:
I see both Christianity and Islam as both killing apostates and non-believers in the past, but only Islam continues to do so today, since we have brought Christianity to heel.

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You are, as usual wrong.
Thanks for the enlightening argument showing where I erred.

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The Internet is a wonderful place for finding things out. I'm sure you can find examples of where Christianity denies freedom of religion in the world somewhere - you just have to have the will to look.
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You say I am wrong yet I covered what you put in already.

Learn to read before telling people they are wrong. It makes you look un-intelligent.

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Greatest I am wrote:You say I am wrong yet I covered what you put in already.

Learn to read before telling people they are wrong. It makes you look un-intelligent.

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First you change the goalposts from "religious freedom" to "killing" then you pretend you have things covered.
Who is looking stupid now?

One example among many
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord's_Resistance_Army
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Greatest I am wrote:
Hobbes' Choice wrote:
Greatest I am wrote:
I see both Christianity and Islam as both killing apostates and non-believers in the past, but only Islam continues to do so today, since we have brought Christianity to heel.

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You are, as usual wrong.
Thanks for the enlightening argument showing where I erred.

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DL
He's not capable of doing that. He truly believes he has his god on his side so rational argument doesn't come into the equation. He doesn't seem to understand that being a muslim generally requires belief in islam. American and British interference has enabled the rise of radical islam, a bastardised, primitive version of the religion, that is naturally going to attract angry, displaced muslims; muslims that no one in their right mind would want in their country. According to Hobbes and his ilk, tolerance is something that only those they consider superior (white people) can bestow as a gift on lesser humans. According to them, these 'lesser humans' are not capable of understanding a difficult concept like 'tolerance', so therefore cannot possibly be expected to practice it. They are quite happy for 'lesser humans' to be blown to pieces though. I wonder why that is?
The most genuine example of tolerance I can think of is India under the British Empire. I don't know how Indians put up with all those snotty English toffs poncing about their country ordering them around for all those years.
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U C 20/20 on both issues.

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Greatest I am wrote:Muslims say; religious freedom for me, but not for thee.
Please cite your reference for that statement.
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bobevenson wrote:
Greatest I am wrote:Muslims say; religious freedom for me, but not for thee.
Please cite your reference for that statement.
Let me adlib.

Kill the non-believers where you find them.

That would include Muslim apostates.

This is all well known information.

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Please cite a specific, authoritative reference, unless, of course, you are unable to.
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bobevenson wrote:Please cite a specific, authoritative reference, unless, of course, you are unable to.
Go play elsewhere child.

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When are you going to start talking out of your mouth instead of your anus, huh?
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