Is the US President supposed to represent all the people?

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Underdog Trump.


What do you think is the motive of President Donald J. Trump, POTUS?

You've probably hit the nail on the head here. I think people voted for Trump because they perceived him as the underdog, thinking he had no chance, but they felt compelled to vote anyway, and didn't particularly like Hillary. It's a bit unusual for Americans to back an underdog isn't it? They must have really disliked Hillary. Plus, people are fed up with politicians using political-speak to say absolutely nothing. It's just another form of lying. Of course, the email nonsense was just a red herring. I'm sure the average American wouldn't give a shit about that, unless she was sending emails to ISIS that said 'Death to America' ten thousand times.
His motive? Something different to do, that doesn't involve bullying old ladies and erecting vulgar monstrosities. Then there is the 'tiny hands/.....' syndrome. He does seem to feel the need to constantly prove that he's 'the man'. Bigger and better than everyone else. Which is odd, since he's naturally big anyway. Must be small somewhere.

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What do you think is the motive of President Donald J. Trump, POTUS?

He doesn't have one. Never expected to be elected and has no clue what the job entails or how to do it. But he likes being able to use the big seal, give away not enough pens, piss people off.... and he loves saying "Ye're fired!"
Not so crazy about hearing "I quit." Never expected that.

What has been motivating him is the power to give orders to even more people than he ever did before.
In the shitstorm of universal hatred that's building up, his motivation will be ego-protection: lash out indiscriminately at all critics, constructive and hostile equally, which will lose him more friends and allies.... both of which must be growing very thin on the ground by now.
Once the reaction comes, he'll be motivated by ego to save face, cover his ass, throw scapegoats under buses, thus losing the last staunch allies.
After that, his motivation won't matter, because his actions will be erratic, irrational, random, as he sinks into dementia.

However, the gangs of recently-emboldened belligerent rednecks will still be at large, wreaking havoc for their own reasons.
The Trump spawn and limpets will still be in control of far too much wealth, power and information.

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What do you think is the motive of President Donald J. Trump, POTUS?

He wants to be the next Kennedy family. Wants to recreate what his daddy did for him for his son and for him to be a future prez. Same old same old.

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What do you think is the motive of President Donald J. Trump, POTUS?

He doesn't have one. Never expected to be elected and has no clue what the job entails or how to do it. But he likes being able to use the big seal, give away not enough pens, piss people off.... and he loves saying "Ye're fired!"
Not so crazy about hearing "I quit." Never expected that.

What has been motivating him is the power to give orders to even more people than he ever did before.
In the shitstorm of universal hatred that's building up, his motivation will be ego-protection: lash out indiscriminately at all critics, constructive and hostile equally, which will lose him more friends and allies.... both of which must be growing very thin on the ground by now.
Once the reaction comes, he'll be motivated by ego to save face, cover his ass, throw scapegoats under buses, thus losing the last staunch allies.
After that, his motivation won't matter, because his actions will be erratic, irrational, random, as he sinks into dementia.

However, the gangs of recently-emboldened belligerent rednecks will still be at large, wreaking havoc for their own reasons.
The Trump spawn and limpets will still be in control of far too much wealth, power and information.

He seems without guile to me. He just says whatever comes into his head. It's odd that people moan so much about politicians and their tactics, then complain about someone who is so unpolitician-like. It's the ones who are pulling his strings that you need to worry about. A wayward President is very easy to get rid of, especially one with such a chequered past. After all, he's always done as he pleases without caring what anyone thinks. Anyone who is politically ambitious realises that, and makes sure that they cover their tracks as much as possible.

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He seems without guile to me. He just says whatever comes into his head.

Maybe looks like that, but he's a long-time salesman who's put through a lot of stinky deals. He can lie without the slightest flinch or hesitation - possibly because he really, genuinely doesn't care whether something he says is true or false, as long as it serves the immediate purpose. It's probably that unreflecting focus on the immediate purpose that creates the impression of guilelessness.

It's odd that people moan so much about politicians and their tactics, then complain about someone who is so unpolitician-like.

Are you convinced, then, that there are only two two kinds of people? Politicians, who all lie to the same extent and for the same reason, and non-politicians, who don't? No allowance for loose cannon, madmen, giant marauding overgrown babies?

It's the ones who are pulling his strings that you need to worry about.

What are the strings? Who are the manipulators? How do you know anyone is? What do you do after you worry about them?

A wayward President is very easy to get rid of, especially one with such a chequered past.

Actually, not that easy. Even before the SS surround the Parliament.

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He seems without guile to me. He just says whatever comes into his head.

Maybe looks like that, but he's a long-time salesman who's put through a lot of stinky deals. He can lie without the slightest flinch or hesitation - possibly because he really, genuinely doesn't care whether something he says is true or false, as long as it serves the immediate purpose. It's probably that unreflecting focus on the immediate purpose that creates the impression of guilelessness.

It's odd that people moan so much about politicians and their tactics, then complain about someone who is so unpolitician-like.

Are you convinced, then, that there are only two two kinds of people? Politicians, who all lie to the same extent and for the same reason, and non-politicians, who don't? No allowance for loose cannon, madmen, giant marauding overgrown babies?

It's the ones who are pulling his strings that you need to worry about.

What are the strings? Who are the manipulators? How do you know anyone is? What do you do after you worry about them?

A wayward President is very easy to get rid of, especially one with such a chequered past.

Actually, not that easy. Even before the SS surround the Parliament.

Actually I think politicians are a species unto themselves. Psychopathy generally goes with the job description. It's just the way he says things that upsets the PC so much. Are his policies really as radical as people are being led to think? Republican Govts. are always fascist crap-heaps.
Would you prefer Mike Pence? That little beady-eyed creep is just itching for the job. Makes my skin crawl.

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It's just the way he says things that upsets the PC so much.

Who are the PC? The way he says things is without factual content, relevant information or directed response to specific questions; it's random, vindictive and incoherent. That's got to be somewhat worrisome in anyone who carries lots of responsibility and power.

Are his policies really as radical as people are being led to think?

YES.
He can do incredible damage. And certainly will, if he's not impeached.
These are not policies; they are not part of a co-ordinated platform or party agenda. He has no concept of the effect any of these idiotic decrees will have on the people, the economy, the federation or international relations. He has no idea what his rash promises to the resentful rednecks will cost. He has no idea which of the promises are impossible to fulfill. He has no idea beyond next week and the cheering.

Republican Govts. are always fascist crap-heaps.

Maybe not always, but lately, yes. But, up till now, they've had a grip on governance.
They have been carping on "big government" for decades, while increasing the size, cost and intrusiveness of government in each administration. This bozo heard the slogan, but never got the memo "Psst - we don't mean it!"; there is a real danger that he will dismantle entire departments and cripple the civil service. That won't be easy to rebuild, and there is no mechanism to pick up the slack. The state governments that are poorly organized and/or poorly funded will falter and fail - with unpredictable results.
They opened the way for the evil clown by eliminating moderates and bedding down with big business, big religion and the most regressive elements of the South. All the election tampering got out of their control, as well as the nomination process. They're in chaos.

Would you prefer Mike Pence? That little beady-eyed creep is just itching for the job. Makes my skin crawl.

Trump chose him. He wouldn't have stood a chance of being the presidential candidate. Though Cruz wasn't more palatable. They had no viable candidates to nominate this time around. The Dems should have done better; should have been prepared for the flood of barely repressed hate to beak loose. But they didn't consult me.
It's never been a question of what I would prefer - sanity, intelligence, competence, responsibility.... Sanders....
It's only a question, now, of what America - and the world - can survive.

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It's just the way he says things that upsets the PC so much.

Who are the PC? The way he says things is without factual content, relevant information or directed response to specific questions; it's random, vindictive and incoherent. That's got to be somewhat worrisome in anyone who carries lots of responsibility and power.

Are his policies really as radical as people are being led to think?

YES.
He can do incredible damage. And certainly will, if he's not impeached.
These are not policies; they are not part of a co-ordinated platform or party agenda. He has no concept of the effect any of these idiotic decrees will have on the people, the economy, the federation or international relations. He has no idea what his rash promises to the resentful rednecks will cost. He has no idea which of the promises are impossible to fulfill. He has no idea beyond next week and the cheering.

Republican Govts. are always fascist crap-heaps.

Maybe not always, but lately, yes. But, up till now, they've had a grip on governance.
They have been carping on "big government" for decades, while increasing the size, cost and intrusiveness of government in each administration. This bozo heard the slogan, but never got the memo "Psst - we don't mean it!"; there is a real danger that he will dismantle entire departments and cripple the civil service. That won't be easy to rebuild, and there is no mechanism to pick up the slack. The state governments that are poorly organized and/or poorly funded will falter and fail - with unpredictable results.
They opened the way for the evil clown by eliminating moderates and bedding down with big business, big religion and the most regressive elements of the South. All the election tampering got out of their control, as well as the nomination process. They're in chaos.

Would you prefer Mike Pence? That little beady-eyed creep is just itching for the job. Makes my skin crawl.

Trump chose him. He wouldn't have stood a chance of being the presidential candidate. Though Cruz wasn't more palatable. They had no viable candidates to nominate this time around. The Dems should have done better; should have been prepared for the flood of barely repressed hate to beak loose. But they didn't consult me.
It's never been a question of what I would prefer - sanity, intelligence, competence, responsibility.... Sanders....
It's only a question, now, of what America - and the world - can survive.

SJWs then (ironic). The ones illiterate idiots call 'lefties' and 'liberals'. The SJWs never cared much about all the dead Iraqis, Libyans, and Syrians. As if Hillary didn't bed down with big business. As for the rest. Oh well. It's America's problem. If it will get it off the rest of the world's back for a while then it can't be all bad.

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The PC always ask that. SJWs then (ironic). The SJWs never cared much about all the dead Iraqis, Libyans, and Syrians.

I don't know what any of that means.

As if Hillary didn't bed down with big business.

The business of America is business. We've known that since Coolidge. Making elections ever more costly has been a long process.
But you overlook the triad: to the most rabid capitalists, add the most virulent muscular christianity and the undead Confederacy to get the most regressive agenda possible.
It's okay to not understand the the difference between Democrats and Republicans, but there is no way in hell a Clinton can be compared to a Pence or Cruz - and nothing under Jehovah's wrathful eye compares to Trump.

As for the rest. Oh well. It's America's problem. If it will get it off the rest of the world's back for a while then it can't be all bad.

America is everybody's problem. And it can be all bad.

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I don't know what any of that means.

SJWs always say that. They are incapable of recognising themselves. Perhaps you know them as 'progressives', a term they have hijacked that has nothing to do with its intended meaning, and now apparently means 'think and say as I order you to think and say or suffer the consequences'. Did you prefer Hillary the rabid warmonger? At least Trump was an unknown quantity. He's also highly entertaining.

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What's an SJW?

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... As for the rest. Oh well. It's America's problem. If it will get it off the rest of the world's back for a while then it can't be all bad.

Have you read what Trump's planning to do?

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What's an SJW?

I think this is what she means:

"Social Justice Warrior. A pejorative term for an individual who repeatedly and vehemently engages in arguments on social justice on the Internet, often in a shallow or not well-thought-out way, for the purpose of raising their own personal reputation. A social justice warrior, or SJW, does not necessarily strongly believe all that they say, or even care about the groups they are fighting on behalf of. They typically repeat points from whoever is the most popular blogger or commenter of the moment, hoping that they will "get SJ points" and become popular in return. They are very sure to adopt stances that are "correct" in their social circle.

The SJW's favorite activity of all is to dogpile. Their favorite websites to frequent are Livejournal and Tumblr. They do not have relevant favorite real-world places, because SJWs are primarily civil rights activists only online."

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... As for the rest. Oh well. It's America's problem. If it will get it off the rest of the world's back for a while then it can't be all bad.

Have you read what Trump's planning to do?

I'm only trying to be objective. What the hell was there to like about warmongering Hillary? I don't think you will have to worry about him for much longer anyway, and then it will be President Pence and the rest of the fascist, religious nut-job bunch of degenerate freaks.

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What's an SJW?

I think this is what she means:

"Social Justice Warrior. A pejorative term for an individual who repeatedly and vehemently engages in arguments on social justice on the Internet, often in a shallow or not well-thought-out way, for the purpose of raising their own personal reputation. A social justice warrior, or SJW, does not necessarily strongly believe all that they say, or even care about the groups they are fighting on behalf of. They typically repeat points from whoever is the most popular blogger or commenter of the moment, hoping that they will "get SJ points" and become popular in return. They are very sure to adopt stances that are "correct" in their social circle.

The SJW's favorite activity of all is to dogpile. Their favorite websites to frequent are Livejournal and Tumblr. They do not have relevant favorite real-world places, because SJWs are primarily civil rights activists only online."

Not the most reputable site. It's an ironic term for insincere social engineering wannabes and thought police. SJWs get outraged on behalf of select groups of people (eg muslims) that they feel must never be exposed to comments that the SJWs deem to be offensive. Unfortunately SJWs don't get outraged when muslims are blown to bits.
Martin Luther King was a social justice warrior. He wasn't an 'SJW'.