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I sense I'm supposed to be offended by that and maybe I would be if I knew what Berkely was, who knows? They say ignorance is bliss.bobevenson wrote: You'd fit right in at Berkeley.
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What you are asking is irrelevant. I posed a ridiculous dichotomy to reflect your one..Immanuel Can wrote:Well, whether or not it's right to shoot anybody in the face (or anywhere else) is an important question, isn't it? And that realization parallels the one I'm asking:Hobbes' Choice wrote:If I shoot Hilter in the face I become a hero in England, if I do the same to Churchill somehow I'm evil.
The World's gone PC MAD!!
Why does the Left attract such lunatics?
Why does religion attract such lunatics?
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Hahaha. Like that is some sort of insult.bobevenson wrote:You'd fit right in at Berkeley.Harbal wrote:Up with workers. Down with Capitalism.
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His response proves you right.uwot wrote:It's wasted on Mr Can. He won't get it.Hobbes' Choice wrote:If I shoot Hilter in the face I become a hero in England, if I do the same to Churchill somehow I'm evil.
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Not to criminal left-wingers.Hobbes' Choice wrote:Hahaha. Like that is some sort of insult.bobevenson wrote:You'd fit right in at Berkeley.Harbal wrote:Up with workers. Down with Capitalism.
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That's another thing you're a perfect example of.Harbal wrote:They say ignorance is bliss.bobevenson wrote: You'd fit right in at Berkeley.
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the bishop's shadow knows...Harbal wrote:I sense I'm supposed to be offended by that and maybe I would be if I knew what Berkely was, who knows? They say ignorance is bliss.bobevenson wrote: You'd fit right in at Berkeley.
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I don't know what you mean, yet I find that very fact makes me happy. Thank you, bob, for sharing the gift of ignorance with me.bobevenson wrote: That's another thing you're a perfect example of.
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There's no such thing as a shadow, only the idea of a shadow. Same goes for the bishop.Impenitent wrote:
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I suppose the fact that he has retreated from proselytising, through preaching to the converted to barely coherent rants about 'leftists' and 'progressivists' is a sign that even he acknowledges his irrelevance.Hobbes' Choice wrote:His response proves you right.uwot wrote:It's wasted on Mr Can. He won't get it.Hobbes' Choice wrote:If I shoot Hilter in the face I become a hero in England, if I do the same to Churchill somehow I'm evil.
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Tell that to your twitterati president and his 'alternative facts'.Immanuel Can wrote:... A reasoned debate would be much more productive. ...
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Try Fux News and your current president or maybe look at all those dictators you funded and supported around the world.Immanuel Can wrote:... So I would really have to find a comparable expression of "right wing" shutting down of debate. I'd just find that quite hard to do right now. ...
Why does the Right create, fund, and support dictators, murderers, torturers and religious fundamentalist loons?Why does the Left attract such lunatics?
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The police didn’t interfere with the law-breaking.wtf wrote:The national reporting of this incident is sensationalistic because that's what the viewers want to see. And Fox News is all in with the hysteria of course.Immanuel Can wrote:I've just read that a speech at Berkeley was shut down by a gang of (apparently) Leftist thugs smashing windows and setting fires.
These "Black Bloc" morons, as they call themselves, are the ones who show up after dark to break windows and start fires. And grab the narrative. During Occupy, 50,000 people staged a totally peaceful protest at the Port of Oakland all day long. After dark, the "anarchists" came out, broke windows and set fires, and the riot cops came in with teargas. What do you think was on tv the next day?
Berkeley is the next town over from Oakland. The troublemakers take the BART (Bay Area Rapid Transit) and trash the campus. The visuals are great. The story goes worldwide.
That's what 20 or 30 morons can do, the exact same morons and probably a lot of the exact same people I saw at Occupy five years ago. It's a damn shame. They are "leftists" in the sense that they spout all the PC rhetoric. But they're not political. Breaking windows is their politics. It's all they stand for.
That said, I do think the left is at some point going to have to take a stand for civility. The Oakland Black Bloc has gone way over the line and it's time for the adults to stand up and say Enough.
And it's in the left's interest to disown and condemn this violence. Because FOX News LOVES the violence. It undermines the left's cause. If the country has to choose between Trump and morons setting fires, it will choose Trump.
By ignoring the law-breaking, the local authorities are complicit in anarchy, and anarchists put the authorities first on the chopping block. Dimwits.
The local authorities probably consider rioting and property destruction to be freedom of speech and expression under some higher moral authority, perhaps 9th Circuit reasoning, but that’s just a guess.
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Deceptive, Hobbes.Hobbes' Choice wrote:What you are asking is irrelevant. I posed a ridiculous dichotomy to reflect your one..
You left out the question I asked: why is what's not okay for authoritarians (i.e. suppressing the right to speech, by force, as at Beserkeley) treated as just fine -- even admirable -- for Leftists?
Answer the real question, if you can.