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Re: The Emperor has no clothes

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Walker wrote:
vegetariantaxidermy wrote:
BradburyPound wrote:
And what do you think this means?
Do you think Americans even realise that Russia isn't a 'commie bastard' any more?
Are you trying to say that the Rooskies no longer live in a Godless nation, which a communist country would be by definition, and because of that Obama is beginning a military buildup, either offense or defensive? If you are, it would be interesting to hear what constitutes the reasoning of such a conclusion. Does the reasoning involve the Crusades? Does it involve some kind of geopolitical Superbowl, with the owners in the box seats looking down upon the action in either celebration or defeat? If not that, then what are you attempting to imply with your observation?
I don't see a 'conclusion', only a question. What the fuck do you think I mean? Are you completely retarded?/
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote:
Walker wrote:
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Do you think Americans even realise that Russia isn't a 'commie bastard' any more?
Are you trying to say that the Rooskies no longer live in a Godless nation, which a communist country would be by definition, and because of that Obama is beginning a military buildup, either offense or defensive? If you are, it would be interesting to hear what constitutes the reasoning of such a conclusion. Does the reasoning involve the Crusades? Does it involve some kind of geopolitical Superbowl, with the owners in the box seats looking down upon the action in either celebration or defeat? If not that, then what are you attempting to imply with your observation?
I don't see a 'conclusion', only a question. What the fuck do you think I mean? Are you completely retarded?/
The question
Brings to mind
A favorite line
Which sort of rhymes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AynXoLjYrKc
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Walker wrote:
vegetariantaxidermy wrote:
BradburyPound wrote:
And what do you think this means?
Do you think Americans even realise that Russia isn't a 'commie bastard' any more?
Are you trying to say that the Rooskies no longer live in a Godless nation, which a communist country would be by definition, and because of that Obama is beginning a military buildup, either offense or defensive?
Did you not notice that the Soviet system collapsed?
And that God has returned, as it did in WW2?
Surely the only "godless" system by definition is the American republic, and that failed miserably too.

Both failed and godly nations are, like their religion quite warlike.
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BradburyPound wrote:
Walker wrote:
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Do you think Americans even realise that Russia isn't a 'commie bastard' any more?
Are you trying to say that the Rooskies no longer live in a Godless nation, which a communist country would be by definition, and because of that Obama is beginning a military buildup, either offense or defensive?
Did you not notice that the Soviet system collapsed?
And that God has returned, as it did in WW2?
Surely the only "godless" system by definition is the American republic, and that failed miserably too.

Both failed and godly nations are, like their religion quite warlike.
Yep, sounds exactly like what you’re saying, BP. Therefore, we can conclude that even a preemptive summation shall not deter a screed.

Moving from the specific to the general, does such natural impetus from thought to voice have any geopolitical correlation? Say, like a preemptive defensive buildup in Europe, the need of which was caused by fecklessness? Which way are those weapons pointed?

And what about Ukraine, wheedled into surrendering their defensive capabilities for their own good, as espoused by then senator and arms-reduction expert, man about town, soon-to-be master-of-the-universe harbinger of faux hopey change, who was obligingly, bowingly, apologetically, supplicatingly, eager to share oversight power over the vast earth kingdom of wealth and energy with any brute force that could rise to the top of the killing pile.

And why would anyone give such wealth and opportunity for destruction to a nation-state headed up by religious fundamentalists who have vowed to do terrible things for whatever their own twisted reasons may be?

What kind of a maroon would attempt to overthrow a regime practicing genocide against its own people, by bolstering rebels against the regime thereby sending the regime under the smelly wing of a Godless country that crushes said people with the boot of genocide, while righteous and impotent politics are spoken as response in faux defense of life, thereby attempting to refute the ineptitude that caused much suffering, simply for the public record.

Such an inept mindset asserts, that if you can say it right, then it is true. And who knows, maybe the history books controlled by proactive special interests will side with some fake version of past reality to bolster the election cycles of future power struggles, perhaps even the next cycle given the brevity of cycles these days.

Perhaps memories unformed during inattentiveness to reality and attentiveness upon less significant aspects is the cause for the brevity of all repetitive cycles, even those perceived in nature, and inattentiveness is simply misplaced attention caused by ignorance of what is significant. For instance, western philosophers and U.S. History taught objectively to adult, yet still-impressionable minds of collegiate age are significant not because someone assigns that significance, but for the lasting though some would say temporal impact upon a reality that includes man and his ignorance.
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Walker wrote:
BradburyPound wrote:
Walker wrote: Are you trying to say that the Rooskies no longer live in a Godless nation, which a communist country would be by definition, and because of that Obama is beginning a military buildup, either offense or defensive?
Did you not notice that the Soviet system collapsed?
And that God has returned, as it did in WW2?
Surely the only "godless" system by definition is the American republic, and that failed miserably too.

Both failed and godly nations are, like their religion quite warlike.
Yep, sounds exactly like what you’re saying, BP. Therefore, we can conclude that even a preemptive summation shall not deter a screed.
A screed? WTF?

Moving from the specific to the general, does such natural impetus from thought to voice have any geopolitical correlation? Say, like a preemptive defensive buildup in Europe, the need of which was caused by fecklessness? Which way are those weapons pointed?
Have you send your text through a post-modern test generator?

And what about Ukraine, wheedled into surrendering their defensive capabilities for their own good, as espoused by then senator and arms-reduction expert, man about town, soon-to-be master-of-the-universe harbinger of faux hopey change, who was obligingly, bowingly, apologetically, supplicatingly, eager to share oversight power over the vast earth kingdom of wealth and energy with any brute force that could rise to the top of the killing pile.
Who the fuck are you talking about? Nukes were completely irrelevant.
Ukraine got fucked because the west (EU and US) conspired to bring Ukraine into it's sphere with a right-wing middle-class and nazi alliance forming an illegal coup, which was thoroughly rejected by Russia ethnic areas. The result was that the Crimea chose Russia. I thought Putin showed massive restraint.
He could well have stormed into the Ukraine and restored democratic order, but took the lesser evil of the tow possible paths and brought ethnically Russian areas into his sphere.

And why would anyone give such wealth and opportunity for destruction to a nation-state headed up by religious fundamentalists who have vowed to do terrible things for whatever their own twisted reasons may be?
Now where the hell are you?

What kind of a maroon would attempt to overthrow a regime practicing genocide against its own people, by bolstering rebels against the regime thereby sending the regime under the smelly wing of a Godless country that crushes said people with the boot of genocide, while righteous and impotent politics are spoken as response in faux defense of life, thereby attempting to refute the ineptitude that caused much suffering, simply for the public record.
Are you talking about Bush now?

Such an inept mindset asserts, that if you can say it right, then it is true. And who knows, maybe the history books controlled by proactive special interests will side with some fake version of past reality to bolster the election cycles of future power struggles, perhaps even the next cycle given the brevity of cycles these days.

Perhaps memories unformed during inattentiveness to reality and attentiveness upon less significant aspects is the cause for the brevity of all repetitive cycles, even those perceived in nature, and inattentiveness is simply misplaced attention caused by ignorance of what is significant. For instance, western philosophers and U.S. History taught objectively to adult, yet still-impressionable minds of collegiate age are significant not because someone assigns that significance, but for the lasting though some would say temporal impact upon a reality that includes man and his ignorance.
This is a litany of confusion. It is as if you are trying hard to sound clever but you are dancing around the topics and signifying nothing.
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Re: The Emperor has no clothes

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[quote="BradburyPound"]
Have you sent your text through a post-modern text generator?
[quote]

Bloody brilliant and spot on. Is there a 'bullshit-speak' translator on google?
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Walker wrote:
Perhaps memories unformed during inattentiveness to reality and attentiveness upon less significant aspects is the cause for the brevity of all repetitive cycles, even those perceived in nature, and inattentiveness is simply misplaced attention caused by ignorance of what is significant. For instance, western philosophers and U.S. History taught objectively to adult, yet still-impressionable minds of collegiate age are significant not because someone assigns that significance, but for the lasting though some would say temporal impact upon a reality that includes man and his ignorance.
We can clearly see that there is no bi-univocal correspondence between linear signifying links or archi-writing, depending on the author, and this multireferential, multi-dimensional machinic catalysis. The symmetry of scale, the transversality, the pathic non-discursive character of their expansion: all these dimensions remove us from the logic of the excluded middle and reinforce us in our dismissal of the ontological binarism we criticised previously.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote:
BradburyPound wrote: Have you sent your text through a post-modern text generator?

Bloody brilliant and spot on. Is there a 'bullshit-speak' translator on google?
try this.
http://www.wisdomofchopra.com
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BradburyPound wrote:...
He could well have stormed into the Ukraine and restored democratic order, ...
:lol:
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: We can clearly see that there is no bi-univocal correspondence between linear signifying links or archi-writing, depending on the author, and this multireferential, multi-dimensional machinic catalysis. The symmetry of scale, the transversality, the pathic non-discursive character of their expansion: all these dimensions remove us from the logic of the excluded middle and reinforce us in our dismissal of the ontological binarism we criticised previously.
That’s total nonsense.
Do endeavor to keep pace and on topic.

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Arising_uk wrote:
BradburyPound wrote:...
He could well have stormed into the Ukraine and restored democratic order, ...
:lol:
He could have done anything he wanted.
Nothing and no one to stop him.
Just notions.
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Walker wrote:
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: We can clearly see that there is no bi-univocal correspondence between linear signifying links or archi-writing, depending on the author, and this multireferential, multi-dimensional machinic catalysis. The symmetry of scale, the transversality, the pathic non-discursive character of their expansion: all these dimensions remove us from the logic of the excluded middle and reinforce us in our dismissal of the ontological binarism we criticised previously.
That’s total nonsense.
Do endeavor to keep pace and on topic.

8)
How is it nonsense?
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote:
Walker wrote:
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: We can clearly see that there is no bi-univocal correspondence between linear signifying links or archi-writing, depending on the author, and this multireferential, multi-dimensional machinic catalysis. The symmetry of scale, the transversality, the pathic non-discursive character of their expansion: all these dimensions remove us from the logic of the excluded middle and reinforce us in our dismissal of the ontological binarism we criticised previously.
That’s total nonsense.
Do endeavor to keep pace and on topic.

8)
How is it nonsense?
Because I can’t be bothered to think about the things you wrote in terms of the meaning of each word, and/or any ancillary meanings when each word is used in conjunction with other words of which I’ll also have to consider in terms of their meanings, implications, and relationships.

The reason for bother is because I already know so many things and in the current situation, all things considered, I am far too lazy to give anything other than whimsy the munificence of attention, since so many imperatives do call and procrastination is purely selfish in nature.

In other words, although I can be bothered to indulge what I must, I feel no need to indulge whatever it is another must indulge, though it risks honey of a peach for lending an ear, don’t you know van Gogh ... idiom, colloquialism, and mixed metaphors for congeniality, which all-in-all seems appropriate given the medium when silence or Rooskie talk is the alternative response to a particularly dim observation. Savvy? Just havan a little fun, airin out the cobwebs, thinkin bout things here and now which is bout the best thing they is sometimes.

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Walker wrote:
BradburyPound wrote:
Walker wrote: Are you trying to say that the Rooskies no longer live in a Godless nation, which a communist country would be by definition, and because of that Obama is beginning a military buildup, either offense or defensive?
Did you not notice that the Soviet system collapsed?
And that God has returned, as it did in WW2?
Surely the only "godless" system by definition is the American republic, and that failed miserably too.

Both failed and godly nations are, like their religion quite warlike.
Yep, sounds exactly like what you’re saying, BP. Therefore, we can conclude that even a preemptive summation shall not deter a screed.

Moving from the specific to the general, does such natural impetus from thought to voice have any geopolitical correlation? Say, like a preemptive defensive buildup in Europe, the need of which was caused by fecklessness? Which way are those weapons pointed?

And what about Ukraine, wheedled into surrendering their defensive capabilities for their own good, as espoused by then senator and arms-reduction expert, man about town, soon-to-be master-of-the-universe harbinger of faux hopey change, who was obligingly, bowingly, apologetically, supplicatingly, eager to share oversight power over the vast earth kingdom of wealth and energy with any brute force that could rise to the top of the killing pile.

And why would anyone give such wealth and opportunity for destruction to a nation-state headed up by religious fundamentalists who have vowed to do terrible things for whatever their own twisted reasons may be?

What kind of a maroon would attempt to overthrow a regime practicing genocide against its own people, by bolstering rebels against the regime thereby sending the regime under the smelly wing of a Godless country that crushes said people with the boot of genocide, while righteous and impotent politics are spoken as response in faux defense of life, thereby attempting to refute the ineptitude that caused much suffering, simply for the public record.

Such an inept mindset asserts, that if you can say it right, then it is true. And who knows, maybe the history books controlled by proactive special interests will side with some fake version of past reality to bolster the election cycles of future power struggles, perhaps even the next cycle given the brevity of cycles these days.

Perhaps memories unformed during inattentiveness to reality and attentiveness upon less significant aspects is the cause for the brevity of all repetitive cycles, even those perceived in nature, and inattentiveness is simply misplaced attention caused by ignorance of what is significant. For instance, western philosophers and U.S. History taught objectively to adult, yet still-impressionable minds of collegiate age are significant not because someone assigns that significance, but for the lasting though some would say temporal impact upon a reality that includes man and his ignorance.
Read it again BP, but this time not like Mouse.
Read it with feeling, like Dozer does in the missing link, like you understand it. :wink:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oEnJfZ9joY
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