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Whether you know it by the New Right, the Alt Right, or Neo-Republicanism, it's STILL Fascism.

Don't be fooled, the philosophy of Fascism is not the philosophy of Democracy - NO MATTER WHAT IT'S CALLED by those who wish to fool you...IT'S STILL FASCISM in 2016.


Neo-fascism is a post–World War II ideology that includes significant elements of fascism. Neo-fascism usually includes ultranationalism, populism, anti-immigration policies or, where relevant, nativism, anti-communism, anti-socialism, anti-Marxism, anti-anarchism and opposition to the parliamentary system and liberal democracy.

Allegations that a group is neo-fascist may be hotly contested, especially if the term is used as a political epithet. Some post–World War II regimes have been described as neo-fascist due to their authoritarian nature, and sometimes due to their fascination and sympathy towards fascist ideology and rituals.


Post-fascism is a label that has been applied to several European political parties including the Alt-Right and New-Right
that espouse a modified form of fascism and which partake in constitutional politics






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The alt-right is a segment of right-wing ideologies that reject mainstream conservatism in the United States.

It is largely Internet-based and found on websites such as 4chan and 8chan, where anonymous members create and use Internet memes to express themselves. It is difficult to tell how much of what people write is serious, and how much is intended to provoke outrage.

The alt-right uses social media like Twitter and Breitbart News to convey their message.


Generally alt-right postings support Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump, and oppose immigration, multiculturalism and political correctness.

The alt-right has no formal ideology, although various sources and alt-right figures have stated that white nationalism is fundamental. It has also been associated with white supremacism, Islamophobia, antifeminism, antisemitism, ethno-nationalism, right-wing populism, nativism, traditionalism, and the neoreactionary movement. The alt-right is an umbrella term.

The movement has been associated with multiple ideologies from anarcho-capitalists, American nationalism, neo-monarchists to men's rights advocates and people who oppose mainstream conservatism




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There are too many "isms" in this post, Wiltrack. I want you to go away and rewrite it but without all the labels. In fact, you don't even have to rewrite it, if you will just go away that will do nicely.
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....you mean, you want me to dummy it down for you?






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How bout this? - Donald Trump represents the alt-right in America.


Zat good?







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Bill Wiltrack wrote:.





How bout this? - Donald Trump represents the alt-right in America.


Zat good?



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Can you dummy it down a bit more and just not bother saying anything?
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thanks
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You're welcome.

I know it's kind-of a controversial subject and one that is often misunderstood by today's youth.


Brexit was a step towards Fascism in the European Union.

Unfortunately the Republican Party, in my country of America, has been hijacked by this very same political philosophy that was so well exemplified by the late Benito Mussolini of Italy.



We must all remember that Fascism didn't rise in a time because it was so popular. It happened at a time when Democracy was considered so weak.


I am hoping that America is able to hold onto the principles that made us great. And that America will continue to be the moral beacon of the world and will continue to be the political leader of an emerging world-wide united citizenry.







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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37805525

vote for your criminal like your union master commands

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Impenitent wrote:http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37805525

vote for your criminal like your union master commands

-Imp
I'm so glad I don't live in the US, I'd hate having to care about any of this.
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Harbal wrote:I'm so glad I don't live in the US, I'd hate having to care about any of this.
unfortunately, the world is not so large anymore...

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Impenitent wrote: unfortunately, the world is not so large anymore...

-Imp
I'm not saying it won't affect me, I'm just saying it's very easy to be disinterested.
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The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
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Bill is somewhat right in some senses (though the OPs were I suppose copied from somewhere). But let us get clear on a couple of things. If we are going to use the terms Left and Right we are forced, immediately, to employ binary thinking.

So, just as the Right has in certain senses, either directly or indirectly, a link to conservatism and 'fascism' (fascism: a resistance movement to Communist expansion). So the Left has links to to the Bolsheviks and then to the State communism of Stalin. One must also mention Mao.

Nazi fascism was a form of 'Teutonic Imperialism' which, though it may have had some 'good' impulses and good effects (organization, a socialized system, eradication of unemployment, nationalistic unity, and fairly wide-spread support by the citizen), it morphed into a virulent and hyper-powerful totalitarianism.

The point is that at each *pole* there are very ugly manifestations. Yet, and this is not contested, the Left forms were the most costly in terms of *human destruction* and the left in its Maoist and Stalinist forms has cast the longest shadow.

Though neo-fascism has a face that we all recognize, as with SkinHeads and Neo-Nazis, neo-fascism can also be said to have another face. The Alt-Right is not organized enough to present any particular face (and it is American and it has little discernable ideology). It is made up of various groupings with various agendas. It is hard to find a Constitutionally-based or focussed Alt-Right since the Alt-Right is, more often than not (or perhaps 50%?) a white nationalist grouping. They would I suppose desire a Constitutional republic if it were a white republic. But a Constitutional Republic if it is mixed is a troubling problem for them. Yet, they are the ones who are descended from the Founders. It is a paradox.

The European neo-fascists are definitely distinct. The link to fascism proper may be misleading, yet it is not inexistent. The roots of fascism derive from strains of nationalistic, Christian and Catholic thought, as well as a down-and-dirty and thrown together program of social and cultural resitance to Communism which was sweeping in from the East. So, to understand what Fascism is, or was, is part of the project of understanding resistance to Marxism. And the *study* of Fascism and its allied resitance-forms is, in a very real sense, the study of European culture, philosophy, as well as religious forms and Pagan forms.

As I have argued elsewhere, European identity is in itself a *resitance movement* to trends and ideas and ideologies which have arisen in the post-war era. According to this perspective then, our Present has been *infected* with certain ideological strains be they neo-Marxian, American commercialist, or perhaps even 'postmodern'.

So I would argue, Bill, that it is crucial to reinvestigate 'fascism' but to see it as more integrally linked to all institutional European forms as well as to the European Self. This requires *getting out from under* what are the Scare Citations (as you have put forward in the parts of your OP you copied).

Your essential fear, I think if you really got down to it, is of the European man himself (I means European-descended too, as in Australia and NZ and America). And it seems that you favor a sort of burying of what you fear, or in any case keeping it down and under control. But that is not freedom. Because to be 'free' is to be fully actuated and yet to restrain oneself.
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Bill wrote:I am hoping that America is able to hold onto the principles that made us great. And that America will continue to be the moral beacon of the world and will continue to be the political leader of an emerging world-wide united citizenry.
Well, I have good news and bad news. The good news first. There are indeed such 'principles' and they are found in the Constitutional writings, The Federalist, and the general political organization of the Republic.

The bad news is that those United States took a very different turn when, soon after the turn into the 20th century, it opted to become a neo-imperial power. At the end of the Second War it had achieved a level of world-control which was, in many different ways, far out of keeping with these 'principles' that you speak of. It is not inaccurate to say that it thus took on two very distinct 'faces'. The internal, Constitutional face of its home institutions, and then another, very different face of its neo-Imperialism.

These are not compatible faces.

So, to speak in the terms your propose --- of 'principles' --- becomes a project of being able to see and describe just how, where and why the United States can no longer to be said to be associated with its 'principles' but far more with a dominion-project. That dominion-project is mercantile and also military. The idea of 'spreading Jeffersonian democracy' is a bold-faced farce. And most of America's projects are carried out by, administered by, and support not the principled 'face' of Constitutional America, but a radically different face altogether. It is hard to put a name to that face but it is, by and large, corporate-military.

These are just the facts, son.

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Bill Wiltrack wrote:.





How bout this? - Donald Trump represents the alt-right in America.


Zat good?







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I don't think he's particularly right-wing (whatever that means these days). I don't think he's anything in particular. And is 'alt' short for 'alternative' or just more yank bad spelling?
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