Arising_uk wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2017 1:26 am
Viveka wrote:And if you didn't cut my post short my argument would show why it isn't a continuous event.
Why would rotation make a difference? Your ether should be continuously 'pulling' or pushing' and the speed of light should be affected accordingly. Instead what has happened is that there was a measurable change for a short-period which is commensurate with Einstein's theory and the idea that there are gravitational waves out there.
The ether would fundamentally have to reflect, or "move itself into itself", in order to exist. It's self-reflective nature is what maintains it as "unmoving" or "stable".
The ether, in reflecting upon itself, would manifest an approximate negative structure as "apeiron":
"The apeiron is central to the cosmological theory created by Anaximander, a 6th-century BC pre-Socratic Greek philosopher whose work is mostly lost. From the few existing fragments, we learn that he believed the beginning or ultimate reality (arche) is eternal and infinite, or boundless (apeiron), subject to neither old age nor decay, which perpetually yields fresh materials from which everything we can perceive is derived.[4] Apeiron generated the opposites, hot-cold, wet-dry etc., which acted on the creation of the world.[5] Everything is generated from apeiron and then it is destroyed by going back to apeiron, according to necessity.[6] He believed that infinite worlds are generated from apeiron and then they are destroyed there again.[7]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apeiron_(cosmology)
This "apieron" as "negative being", "void", or "chaos" is strictly a dimension of perpetual flux.
Einstein's relativity is fundamentally a study of the "apeiron" in many respects:
"Werner Heisenberg, noted for the creation of quantum mechanics, arrived at the idea that the elementary particles are to be seen as different manifestations, different quantum states, of one and the same “primordial substance.” Because of its similarity to the primordial substance hypothesized by Anaximander, his colleague Max Born called this substance apeiron.[38]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apeiron_(cosmology)
In these respects the Ether would be equivalent to a dimension of Unified stability and the Apeiron as a dimension of Non-Unified flux.
If you look at the nature of measurement in modern physics it is fundamentally an act of "division" where dimensions are determined and the relation of these dimensions in turn individuates the percieved object or being as a "unit". This unit, or "part of a being/particulate" in turn is defined by its relations to another "unit". The physicist understands the electron through its relations to protons, neutrinos, etc. and in these respect individuates it as a "particle".
Measurement, as an act of division, can be applied to the Apeiron without contradiction for the Apieron is "divison as absence of structure".
Think about it this way, any time one divides or breaks apart an object when they are doing is creating a "void" within the object in order to understand the further "voids" which compose it.
The problem occurs, logically at least, is the the apeiron as a void forms the basis for all matter and in the act of measurement we follow it in both form and function. In this respect the act of measurement is as much how forming reality as it is about understanding it. The question is where does real science begin and end if "forming reality" is a possible basis for the modern view of science.
I heard a joke that quantum physicists are good a breaking things by accident...all jokes have a degree of truth in themselves.