God has all attributes including evil iniquity.
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God has all attributes including evil iniquity.
God has all attributes including evil iniquity.
Deuteronomy 32:4 He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.
Ezekiel 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
Ephesians 3:8-10 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
Revelation 4:11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.
God created the attribute of iniquity and placed that capability in Satan. The above quote seems to show iniquity as capable of negating perfection yet scriptures show that perfection is never ending. If it could end, then even God’s perfection would be at risk and this condition is one that God would never create
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All concepts were created for God’s pleasure.
What pleasure do you think God gets from iniquity?
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Deuteronomy 32:4 He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.
Ezekiel 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
Ephesians 3:8-10 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
Revelation 4:11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.
God created the attribute of iniquity and placed that capability in Satan. The above quote seems to show iniquity as capable of negating perfection yet scriptures show that perfection is never ending. If it could end, then even God’s perfection would be at risk and this condition is one that God would never create
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All concepts were created for God’s pleasure.
What pleasure do you think God gets from iniquity?
Regards
DL
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I'm the only person on Earth who understands the book of Revelation, and it's got nothing to do with what you're talking about.Greatest I am wrote:
Revelation 4:11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.
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Aren't you so special.bobevenson wrote:I'm the only person on Earth who understands the book of Revelation, and it's got nothing to do with what you're talking about.Greatest I am wrote:
Revelation 4:11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.
Inform away.
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DL - A very good post indeed. I only disagree with one statement:- "God created the attribute of iniquity and placed that capability in Satan."
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Yeah, I guess that does make me special, doesn't it?Greatest I am wrote:Aren't you so special.bobevenson wrote:I'm the only person on Earth who understands the book of Revelation, and it's got nothing to do with what you're talking about.Greatest I am wrote:
Revelation 4:11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.
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Re: God has all attributes including evil iniquity.
Not believing in bible God, I do not agree with myself on anything I wrote.attofishpi wrote:DL - A very good post indeed.
Thanks.
I only disagree with one statement:- "God created the attribute of iniquity and placed that capability in Satan."
I was just forming an argument.
That is the dogma as I know it though.
Are you saying God did not create iniquity and if so, then who is God's co-creator and the one who created iniquity?
After all, it would found in Satan even before man was created so there are not many options.
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No. I am saying that satan does not exist...and the bible has more bull than i would want to buy. All the iniquity you speak of is part of God - the Alpha and the Omega.Greatest I am wrote:Are you saying God did not create iniquity and if so, then who is God's co-creator and the one who created iniquity?
After all, it would found in Satan even before man was created so there are not many options.
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iniquity
Noun.
1. absence of moral or spiritual values; "the powers of darkness"
2. morally objectionable behaviour
3. an unjust act
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No argument.attofishpi wrote:No. I am saying that satan does not exist...and the bible has more bull than i would want to buy. All the iniquity you speak of is part of God - the Alpha and the Omega.Greatest I am wrote:Are you saying God did not create iniquity and if so, then who is God's co-creator and the one who created iniquity?
After all, it would found in Satan even before man was created so there are not many options.
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iniquity
Noun.
1. absence of moral or spiritual values; "the powers of darkness"
2. morally objectionable behaviour
3. an unjust act
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Re: God has all attributes including evil iniquity.
Cherry picking from the scriptures?Greatest I am wrote:God has all attributes including evil iniquity.
Deuteronomy 32:4 He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.
Ezekiel 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
Ephesians 3:8-10 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
Revelation 4:11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.
God created the attribute of iniquity and placed that capability in Satan. The above quote seems to show iniquity as capable of negating perfection yet scriptures show that perfection is never ending. If it could end, then even God’s perfection would be at risk and this condition is one that God would never create
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All concepts were created for God’s pleasure.
What pleasure do you think God gets from iniquity?
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Re: God has all attributes including evil iniquity.
I understand the situation but fail to see the problem.chaz wyman wrote:[
Cherry picking from the scriptures?
When was the last time you were in church and heard the preacher quote where God says to murder all the children?
Cherry picking is a religious trait and I get on the level playing field.
You have the problem. Not I.
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The problem with cherry picking is that you can justify just about any crackpot religious theory by being selective, and just about every converse argument.Greatest I am wrote:I understand the situation but fail to see the problem.chaz wyman wrote:[
Cherry picking from the scriptures?
When was the last time you were in church and heard the preacher quote where God says to murder all the children?
Cherry picking is a religious trait and I get on the level playing field.
You have the problem. Not I.
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So your problem is that the Scriptures have no value in making any statement that is not also immediately refutable, except the most banal facts.
Your problem is that you do not have an argument.
For example; God might well have said murder all the children, but Jesus also said suffer the little children to come unto me.
Although God, in numerous placed exhorts the Israelites to cheat, murder, rape, and pillage; he also gives us the story of turn the other cheek and the Good Samaritan.
Your mistake is to give any of it credence. You are no better than any other biblical literalist.
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I use scriptures. I do not give them credence.chaz wyman wrote:[
Your mistake is to give any of it credence. .
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Fucking hell!Greatest I am wrote:I use scriptures. I do not give them credence.chaz wyman wrote:[
Your mistake is to give any of it credence. .
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Why do you use the scriptures at all?
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They are handy when speaking of the Abrahamic God.chaz wyman wrote:Fucking hell!Greatest I am wrote:I use scriptures. I do not give them credence.chaz wyman wrote:[
Your mistake is to give any of it credence. .
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Why do you use the scriptures at all?
What else should I use when speaking of Christian dogma and doctrine?
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So you accept what you say is naught but discord?Greatest I am wrote:
They are handy when speaking of the Abrahamic God.
What else should I use when speaking of Christian dogma and doctrine?
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You do not want anyone to take your conclusions seriously, surely,,,,