seeds wrote:I firmly believe that life continues on for us after death.
Dubious wrote:...and what would warrant this belief since creating humans is a mass production event.
seeds wrote:That question makes no sense to me.
Simple! A momentary ripple followed by an incubation of approximately nine months and another consciousness is born which by merit of being human is destined to be reborn according to your view. But as confirmed by history, God or nature couldn't care less about all your pretty ones. They're a dime a dozen, totally expendable and replaceable. If life weren't so cheap we wouldn't need all the myth and religion to enhance it.
seeds wrote:The fact that humans are generally unaware of just how strange the universe truly is, is testament to my earlier assertion of how humans are operating at a restricted level of consciousness which makes them somnambulistically oblivious of the bizarre features of our current situation.
"Bizarre features of our current situation" do not on any level endorse a life after death scenario. A restricted level of consciousness may seem to make the universe strange without actually being particularly strange as comprehended by a less restricted consciousness. In our case, being admittedly handicapped in that respect, what would justify an even greater insurgence of strangeness such as believing in life after death?
What I find immeasurably bizarre beyond anything in the universe or quantum theory is human behavior and beliefs transgressing the purlieus of logic, reason and viability into regions of total absurdity grounded in the momentum of consciousness called "wishful thinking".
Having lived your years, however long, humans should feel entitled to the kind of destiny you proclaim? Some, like yourself, IC and Doc, may "feel" that way and in a sense it serves a purpose for only '"in time", through the alchemy of consciousness can time be dilated into eternity making the present more palatable. After which, there is no affirmation or negation, no right or wrong or even any acknowledgement thereof. There is only the complete obliteration of time squeezing out all of history into an eternity you will never feel.
seeds wrote: The point is, Dubious (and assuming that “eternal life” is a possibility), that what we will be able to do with the mental fabric of our very own being (i.e., our minds sans “physical” body) is exactly what the Creator of this universe has done with the mental fabric of his own being.
...yes but in our case to experience all this in whatever state you still requires blood flowing to the brain. Without that there is absolutely nothing, time condensed to zero, in the most literal sense. As the saying goes, "mind is what the brain does".
seeds wrote:After a second and final birth out of these temporary bodies and into our ultimate and eternal form, we are going to be like the Creator of this universe.
Sorry! But after the fuck ups we proved ourselves to be on this planet this sentiment sounds slightly out of tune.
seeds wrote:And if you think that being magnetically adhered to the spherical surface of a spinning ball feels natural to you right now in our temporary form, then just imagine how natural “true reality” will feel to us in a form and context that is meant to last forever.
Easy to say "true reality"! Aside from being derived from your imagination as wishful thinking, it's also an oxymoron. There is nothing to prevent your consciousness from endorsing such views since it contains whatever imagination creates. Nevertheless, it is so much easier to explain the physics of gravitation then the true reality of Beings meant to last forever.
I think for most people when they get really old and tired, don't wish for a second tier of existence which lasts forever. More likely they prefer to surrender to the oblivion they came from.
seeds wrote:(Take a peek at a series of extremely fanciful illustrations I created to help visualize the ideas above. Scroll down when you land on the first one, here: http://theultimateseeds.com/murmurings.htm)_______
I looked at them and they're quite impressive!