What you are is not imagined, what you are not is.Arising_uk wrote: ↑Thu Sep 21, 2017 5:44 pmYou getting confused again as how can an imagined thing that is only believed to exist be confused about anything let alone its 'real' identity?
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What you are is not imagined, what you are not is.Arising_uk wrote: ↑Thu Sep 21, 2017 5:44 pmYou getting confused again as how can an imagined thing that is only believed to exist be confused about anything let alone its 'real' identity?
The external world is a concept arising in the you who has no location.
Nowhere.Arising_uk wrote: ↑Thu Sep 21, 2017 5:44 pmI thought there was no external world so where is this 'knower'?
I thought you said it was non-existent?Dontaskme wrote:No, what you are does not change. The I am is changeless.
Who said this? As they miss that this is being a body with senses and a memory in an external world, that's all."I am not my thoughts, feelings, circumstances of changing events in life, I am the awareness, the alertness, the changeless which remains present behind it."
But there is no you or all to understand? I'm at a loss why you talk.Dontaskme wrote:Yes, and that's all there is to understand.
I know as what I am is a body with senses, memory and a language in an external world. No idea how what I am not can be imagined as it is not?Dontaskme wrote:What you are is not imagined, what you are not is.
So where are you typing from? The phenomenon of the external world is that there is an external world as without it no phenomena. It's not all in your head and if you think it is I invite you to step in front of that big red object barreling down the road.Dontaskme wrote:The external world is a concept arising in the you who has no location.
So non-existent then.Dontaskme wrote:Nowhere.
It is entirely true that stars eventually die otherwise you would not be here as you are made from dead starsken wrote:A huge assumption which if looked at properly could very easily show that it is completely falseDontaskme wrote:
And the reality is the sun is one day going to explode and all this will be no more
Stars dying is one thing. But will the sun 100% for certain explode, or will it certainly die?surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2017 2:07 amIt is entirely true that stars eventually die otherwise you would not be here as you are made from dead starsken wrote:A huge assumption which if looked at properly could very easily show that it is completely falseDontaskme wrote:
And the reality is the sun is one day going to explode and all this will be no more
Thanks. I now KNOW which one you want to do. You would much prefer to just express your already held assumptions and preconceptions rather than show any interest at looking into this deeper and further, and discovering more. This 'prefer to express and be heard' attitude appears to be a serious preoccupation with most human beings.surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2017 6:52 am The Sun will die when it can no longer convert hydrogen into helium and then
will go red giant and expand out to beyond the orbits of either Venus or Earth
The external world and the thoughts about the external world are the same phenomena.Arising_uk wrote: ↑Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:28 pmSo where are you typing from? The phenomenon of the external world is that there is an external world as without it no phenomena. It's not all in your head and if you think it is I invite you to step in front of that big red object barreling down the road.Dontaskme wrote:The external world is a concept arising in the you who has no location.
Actually you are entirely wrong about that. Because if any new knowledge becomes available to me which contradicts what I have said above thenken wrote:Thanks. I now KNOW which one you want to do. You would much prefer to just express your already held assumptions and preconceptions rather than show any interest at looking into this deeper and further and discovering more. This prefer to express and be heard attitude appears to besurreptitious57 wrote:
The Sun will die when it can no longer convert hydrogen into helium and then
will go red giant and expand out to beyond the orbits of either Venus or Earth
a serious preoccupation with most human beings