Justintruth wrote: ↑Thu May 25, 2017 7:48 pm.... The southern hemisphere does not have the psychological assets to develop independently and those qualities are not going to emerge on their own.....
What do you think about eliminating the idea of non interference in internal affairs. (Imperialism minus racism and minus nationalism with complete free trade in labor and citizenship and robust funding for education and a strong safety net with a form of multi-culturalism that is deliberately limited so it does not override values and the resulting benefits like promptness, queuing etc?)
Yes, you read me correctly. I'm suggesting Western leadership and assistance, which could be called interference, is desirable.
I accept in general the clash of civilizations hypothesis, that the world is a war-zone of rival race-based gangs underlied by control of ancient trade corridor along which flow both material and intellectual resources.
That isn't to say that I don't also agree that love conquors all. No doubt love could prevent and heal a mad dog, but unfortunately, practically, protective use of force demands the mad dog be shot. I'm sure love and tolerance for Islam could eventually win (if not genocides by Islamists first), unfortunately, a much more brutal policy of elimination and exclusion is demanded to protect us from becoming martyrs to Islam.
Islamists are intellectually and morally weak people who looked at the gaping terror of the void of existential freedom and flinched and retreated into their ideology and dogma instead of facing freedom with intellectual and moral courage.
Justintruth wrote:Meanwhile, there is no incentive for Western societies to intervene and show leadership or assist in the way that colonialism formerly made it profitable.
What?! No incentive?!
I guess I think we are in the kill zone ...
Perhaps you mean market incentives.
More likely there will eventually be a lock-out at national and local levels. This is what Deleuze and Guattari predict in their "Societies of control" as well as what Foucault and Agamben and so on's work on bio-politics prophesies. If you have seen the more recent film
Elysium or the older one,
Wings Over the World you can understand how it works. This was the standard setup during colonial times and continues to be in 3rd World countries today, in the West with it's majority middle-class the arrangement is not yet as familiar but is likely to become so as the middle-class evaporates.
Justintruth wrote:What if we gave international passports to 1% of 18 year olds by lottery, then 2%, then 4% perhaps with a throttlable rate?
This rate is roughly what is already being achieved through student visas, working visas, family class, and illegal immigration.
As I say, if 3rd World people are going to be imported into the West with an aim to cultural reformation in those home countries there also needs to be an organized and supported repatriation (as to Liberia after the slavery period). Randomly sending people back to Afghanistan only risks their own lives and will accomplish little without co-ordination. If the immigration is only one way, it is only a brain-drain on the 3 rd World. It would be better if Western countries were willing to get involved in development and show leadership and give assistance -- but -- how many doctors, professors, judges, police trainers, engineers, and experts in management want to work for 3rd World salaries? Very few! And who wants to pay the taxes to support such a project? Realistically, the more likely outcome is a lockout and at national and local levels with border-walls, compounds and all the other civil engineering tactics used to control space at the disciplinarian level, and pass cards finger print scanners at the "societies of control" level. As I say at the top, we live in a gang-land world where civilizations are struggling for survival, aiding whole other continents is not going to be a priority, especially if it means that developed continent now becomes a competitor. Furthermore, given how difficult it is to alter a culture, how defense mechanism in a culture prevent it, and how its elements are multiply reinforced, would an effort of development not be resisted and what could it accomplish? The important work is internal (mental). After their wars, Korea and Germany were reduced to mud, but they rebuilt in a generation, Indonesia and Nigeria are going nowhere because they lack the internal (mental) infrastructure to support an advanced state. To put it bluntly and rudely: the 'stupid and lazy' problem.
Justintruth wrote:I have an unrelated question. Do you think automation is causing those without strong intellectual endowments from presenting their needs and desires as economic demands because the automated economy no longer allows them to exchange labor for cash. In general how do you think the demand for labor as a function of skill matches up with the labor attainable with training. In equilibrium -and given environmental constraints - will there be a surplus of labor that drives the supply/demand equilibrium off optimal as measured by the desire and aspirations of the population.
Yes, there is an oversupply of unskilled labor which is why it is worth about $1 a day on the global market, granted, it sells for $100 dollars a day in the protected minimum wage systems of the West -- a bubble waiting to burst. But considering the value of having a majority middle-class and not a mass or poor and a tiny elite it might be a bubble worth keeping going. For those who are educated there will be plenty of work and much to do as we colonize Mars, cure cancer and so on.