When will Atheists learn to accept and love Democracy?

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When will Atheists learn to accept and love Democracy?

Post by Necromancer » Fri Mar 31, 2017 3:22 pm

When will Atheists learn to accept and love Democracy? I have this worry about Atheists that when they form states they tend to be like Soviet Union, Cuba, North Korea and others, not really that cool! So what is it about Atheism and statehood? Are they capable to maintain human rights and stay away from "hidden laws" to promote this special equality among the proletariate?

I think I trust the Christians and other religious people most. They seem to accomplish statehood in a better fashion.

What about you? What is your stance? Your thoughts about this worry?



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Re: When will Atheists learn to accept and love Democracy?

Post by Hobbes' Choice » Fri Mar 31, 2017 7:08 pm

Necromancer wrote:When will Atheists learn to accept and love Democracy?
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When the last dead priest has been strangled by the entrails of the last Bishop.

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Re: When will Atheists learn to accept and love Democracy?

Post by Harbal » Fri Mar 31, 2017 7:37 pm

To many, the word "atheist" implies anti God and anti religion. Is there a word for someone who doesn't have a god to believe in and has no religion but doesn't mind others having these things, as long as they don't do any harm to anyone else?

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Re: When will Atheists learn to accept and love Democracy?

Post by Walker » Fri Mar 31, 2017 8:39 pm

Harbal wrote:To many, the word "atheist" implies anti God and anti religion. Is there a word for someone who doesn't have a god to believe in and has no religion but doesn't mind others having these things, as long as they don't do any harm to anyone else?
- There are two kinds of people.
- Alive, and dead.

- Two realms.
- Not the imaginary realms of theistic/atheistic, or whatever/whatever.

- Dead is also a metaphor.
- Who was is dead.
- Who is is alive.

- Folks can die to the world and go on living in spirit.
- To die to the world means to die to attachment.
- This causes implications.

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Re: When will Atheists learn to accept and love Democracy?

Post by Harbal » Fri Mar 31, 2017 8:44 pm

Walker wrote: - There are two kinds of people.
Surely there are more than that.

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Re: When will Atheists learn to accept and love Democracy?

Post by Necromancer » Fri Mar 31, 2017 8:58 pm

Harbal wrote:To many, the word "atheist" implies anti God and anti religion. Is there a word for someone who doesn't have a god to believe in and has no religion but doesn't mind others having these things, as long as they don't do any harm to anyone else?
YES! The (Sec.) Humanists! Good? :)

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Re: When will Atheists learn to accept and love Democracy?

Post by Walker » Fri Mar 31, 2017 9:03 pm

Harbal wrote:
Walker wrote: - There are two kinds of people.
Surely there are more than that.
You've hit upon the reason why more was written.

Well done. And thanks for the confirmation.

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Post by Harbal » Fri Mar 31, 2017 9:04 pm

Necromancer wrote: YES! The (Sec.) Humanists! Good? :)
"Normal" would be better.

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Re: When will Atheists learn to accept and love Democracy?

Post by Harbal » Fri Mar 31, 2017 9:06 pm

Walker wrote: Well done. And thanks for the confirmation.
I don't know what I confirmed but you're welcome.

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Re: When will Atheists learn to accept and love Democracy?

Post by Walker » Fri Mar 31, 2017 9:38 pm

Harbal wrote:
Walker wrote: Well done. And thanks for the confirmation.
I don't know what I confirmed but you're welcome.
Roger that. We’re talking confirmation of the suspected energy cost/benefit ratio of thoughtful posting to glib dismissal.

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Re: When will Atheists learn to accept and love Democracy?

Post by Harbal » Fri Mar 31, 2017 9:44 pm

Walker wrote: Roger that.
What you roger is your business but I don't really want to be involved.

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Re: When will Atheists learn to accept and love Democracy?

Post by thedoc » Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:52 pm

Harbal wrote:
Necromancer wrote: YES! The (Sec.) Humanists! Good? :)
"Normal" would be better.
I'm guessing that Necromancer was trying to include you, and "normal" certainly would not. Remember we're all in this together.

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Re: When will Atheists learn to accept and love Democracy?

Post by Harbal » Fri Mar 31, 2017 11:00 pm

thedoc wrote:Remember we're all in this together.
That doesn't exactly fill me with optimism.

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Re: When will Atheists learn to accept and love Democracy?

Post by thedoc » Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:24 am

Harbal wrote:
thedoc wrote:Remember we're all in this together.
That doesn't exactly fill me with optimism.
Wasn't meant to, do you remember what the Mk II version of the Guide had written on it's cover? Hint, it's in the 5th book of the trilogy.

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Re: When will Atheists learn to accept and love Democracy?

Post by SpheresOfBalance » Sat Apr 01, 2017 1:10 am

Necromancer wrote:When will Atheists learn to accept and love Democracy?
Who's to say that 'all' Atheists haven't?

I have this worry about Atheists that when they form states they tend to be like Soviet Union, Cuba, North Korea and others, not really that cool!
Aaahh, I see, so you're a theist that fears atheists. OK, it's important to clear the air of misconception.

So what is it about Atheism and statehood?
Are you sure there is in fact a thing about it? Or do you just fear there may be a thing about it?

Are they capable to maintain human rights and stay away from "hidden laws" to promote this special equality among the proletariate?
If I understand your meaning, so far I've seen neither theists nor atheists that answer the equality question with any kind of clarity. Instead everyone just seems to believe they know while others don't, you know, "Everybody Wants to Rule the World," and

"...A whole wide world an endless universe, yet we keep looking through the eyeglass in reverse; don't feed the people but we feed the machines, can't really feel what international means; in different circles we keep holding our ground, indifferent circles we keep spinning round and round and round..."


I think I trust the Christians and other religious people most.
Yet they also enslaved! If only though controlling literacy and knowledge, but then I'm reminded of the Spanish Inquisition. And that some men, that were correct in their discoveries, were either silenced through coercion or murder so as to maintain the religious agenda.

They seem to accomplish statehood in a better fashion.
In the US there is supposed to be a division between church and state, though I see the line as very blurred.

What about you? What is your stance? Your thoughts about this worry?
Lets face it, the concept of a golden rule, by whatever name or containing any such words, both predates religion, and has been found in the writings of many ancient cultures. This means that many have understood the importance of living and letting others live as a means to ensure they are allowed to live. I think most humans of the day understand this basic truth. And that it's only the insane or otherwise mentally handicapped that you really have to worry about.


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