I'm going to reply to all your responses uwot, so hope you can stay with me. I don't think it is correct to say that others ''demand'' an agreement. People are generally exchanging ideas with each others world-views that's all, maybe we are helping others to see a clarity that wasn't seen before, but in no way can anyone ''demand'' another to agree with them. My current view is that we all have the ultimate truth within us anyway as Jesus promised. Jesus being the unknown ''absolute mind'' embodied . . aka the physical relator..(known) .. < Does that make sense?uwot wrote:We already do. The problem is not that there are different ideas; the problem is that some people insist that their idea is right, and demand that others agree.
You appear to already live in a world of doubt or mistrust of others opinions by believing that someone is out to demand from you. I would totally distrust someone outright if I thought that was their agenda. Discussion of this nature is very tricky, but has nothing to do with demanding an agreement, an agreement happens or not, it's never forced on someone. That would be a strange world to live in if that was the case.
It's about pointing to something, but whether the person wants to see where it leads to or not, is entirely up to them, no one is forcing or demanding them to accept what's being pointed to. We are discussing a metaphysical subject here, it's not like we are talking about 2+2=4 that we all know to be absolutely true.
To imagine another of having the kind of agenda that is out to prove their truth only is a suspicion mind, a sceptical mind, and it's a good thing, it's positive, it's allowing real truth to flow through.
Keeping our mind open ...with a child like innocence without holding on too tight to our own ideas, allowing others ideas to comes in, coupled with integrity, honesty , and vulnerability is allowing absolute truth to be revealed to us...but that truth never comes from the other person,as if they were the only one who is right, and you were not..no, that's not what good communication is about...others are simply reminding you of what you already know...we are all teachers and students to each other...in relationship...like Father and Son.
So, do you agree or not, that although we all have different ideas, thoughts, feelings, emotions, like and dislikes, the source of these arbitrary intangible abstracts must come from the same one ''absolute mind'' ?
In other words, the capacity to reason, to critically think and to be able to solve problems..has to be the same for each one of us? ..that meaning we all share the same ''one absolute mind'' expressed as objective truths...and that there can be no separate little minds in and of themselves with with their own little objective truths?
I'm trying to word this as coherent as I possibly can so that everyone can understand what I'm pointing to, if not, then please ask me to clarify.
I'm trying to point to something that you may not have thought about before, I'm in no way forcing you to believe what I say. So hope you stay aboard this discussion. I happen to be very passionate about teaching others that they are the embodiment of truth love and justice and that they are eternal life and no one can take that away from them ever...especially the devil...but of course you do not have to believe that, you heard?