Why do we sin?

[Ansiktsburk]

Sin is fun...

Let's see, what is the harvest today:
1. No swearing today, no reason. But several swedish "oh my gods", which is, as sin goes worse than f-bombs since you actually violates one of the ten commandments.
2. I got aroused by the dress of a woman in the office besides ours. Clearly a 10-commandment-class violation.
3. I used a racist word for a non-white person in a discussion which shocked my teenage daughter. Not a commandmenter but clearly a No-No over here
4. I did drove my bike over a pedestrian crossing so violent that the car who had to break honked at me.
5. I've had two helpings of ice cream after dinner and I will have another. Deeeadly Sin...

I'm baad. And tomorrow it's Friday and missus is out of town... So why do we sin? Becaause up to a limit, it is fun!

[Greta]

I'm not interested in screwing the system. The fact that Trump can valorise not paying taxes is a symptom of major failure. The rich preach the gospel of small government, and use that to load taxation onto the lowest paid, whilst they reap the benefits. They promote the freedom of the individual which the public swallow, and denigrate the notion of society and the community but this is the very thing, the only thing that can break their power.
Drugs laws are a distraction they use to imprison and control the poor; immigration is a smoke screen to avoid the public looking too closely at what is really happening. Whilst the rich preach against foreigners, at the front door, they fill their factories with foreigners and exploit their cheap labour at the back door.

I agree. I like the system. I'm in awe of it and truly hope it fulfills its potentials in the future. However, sometimes you have to thumb your nose at it. So I won't passively accept the system screwing me if I can quietly correct the injustice, flying under the radar. Why should I not be allowed to smoke pot? Booze is dangerous and nauseating, Ritalin and dex make me shake. So I illegally chose a softer drug to keep me relaxed and clear.

What of dying people not being permitted relief from suffering due to the influence of religions on the system? As we agreed, ethics and law intersect, but there are areas of the law that are unethical.

That's what I mean by "screw the system" - to fly under the radar, not to harm it. It seems that once again my Aussie tendency towards colloquialisms has gotten me in bother.

[Walker]

The rich preach the gospel of small government, and use that to load taxation onto the lowest paid, whilst they reap the benefits.

Good grief. In the US the lowest paid don't pay taxes.

Progs have changed the language.
Confiscatory taxation is now called investments in the future.

Sorry, like socialism the theory doesn't fit reality.

[Hobbes' Choice]

The rich preach the gospel of small government, and use that to load taxation onto the lowest paid, whilst they reap the benefits.

Good grief. In the US the lowest paid don't pay taxes.
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Never heard of road tax, sales tax, property tax..

Get a life!

[bobevenson]

The rich preach the gospel of small government, and use that to load taxation onto the lowest paid, whilst they reap the benefits.

Good grief. In the US the lowest paid don't pay taxes.
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Never heard of road tax, sales tax, property tax?

That's why the only proper tax is a tax on property, property being defined as anything with intrinsic market value (in other words money, stock certificates, etc., don't count, since while they have market value, they don't have intrinsic value in and of themselves).

[bobevenson]

Why do we sin? Our institutions are responsible as discussed in "The Ouzo Prophecy," "For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled." -Revelation 17:17 (a description of the beast (our institutions) with 7 heads and 10 horns in chapter and verse)

[Ansiktsburk]

Swedish friday evening booze drinking coming up... that must count. Or does it? I think that clears the 7 deadly ones. And I cannot see it break any of the 10. So, no sins today.

[attofishpi]

Lets define sin as incorrect act in a given situation. The question is that why we do sin? Do we sin because of lack of proper overlook on subject matter or sense of curiosity? If so why we should feel guilty?

I shouldn't laugh, but when i see on the news how someone conspired or did commit some heinous crime, i can't help it - they think or thought that man's justice is all they might receive...man's justice is just_ice compared to what will happen to these simple minded folk.

God is karmic beyond belief - all the priests making out he is 'pure love' are so very very very wrong.

On the one hand you've got priests making out God is pure love - on the other you've got atheists making out that there is only 'mans' justice.

Its a diabolical situation, and the sinner is the ultimate victim.

[Walker]

The rich preach the gospel of small government, and use that to load taxation onto the lowest paid, whilst they reap the benefits.

Good grief. In the US the lowest paid don't pay taxes.
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Never heard of road tax, sales tax, property tax..

... sin tax.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sin_tax

[Hobbes' Choice]

Good grief. In the US the lowest paid don't pay taxes.
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Never heard of road tax, sales tax, property tax..

... sin tax.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sin_tax

All of these taxes are FLAT, and hit the poorest hardest.

[uwot]

Good grief. In the US the lowest paid don't pay taxes.

That's because Trump hasn't built a wall to keep them out yet.

[Hobbes' Choice]

Good grief. In the US the lowest paid don't pay taxes.

That's because Trump hasn't built a wall to keep them out yet.

Fact is they are burdened with a range of flat taxes that bear no relation to their income.

[Walker]

Good grief. In the US the lowest paid don't pay taxes.

That's because Trump hasn't built a wall to keep them out yet.

Fact is they are burdened with a range of flat taxes that bear no relation to their income.

The existence of sin taxes proves that sin in fact does exist.

If the poor sinned less they would pay less sin tax, putting more money in the pocket, making them less poor and able to spend their sin-tax savings, thus stimulating the economy.

Perhaps sinners sin to support the government with investments in the future via the sin tax. That would make them patriotic.

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In life, the object of attention is arbitrary as situations, but once engaged, the object of attention is secondary to the act of attention, whether the attention rests upon bees or astronomy, or historical processes coming to a head.

In the argument to punish sin, the punishment that hurts the poor does not hurt the rich. Thus the argument says that the taxation punishment for the sins of the wealthy should proportionately hurt the wealthy person as much as the taxation punishment for the same sins committed by the poor hurts the poor person. This is how you get millionaire sportsmen in their twenties paying sin-fines of $50 thousand for team and league rule-infractions.

Under the rule of man favored by Progs that exempts the special people, the slippery slope of punishing moral sin transfers to a sliding-scale punishment of crime quite easily. Theoretically, in such a situation you would get people who drive luxury cars receiving heftier traffic fines for the same crimes committed by by those who drive old economy cars, except of course for the crime of doubling the speed limit on a fast highway, committed under the rationale that law-breaking is not a crime unless caught. However, the existence of the moral structure that requires the wealthy to pay more for their civil crimes, made possible by the sliding-scale of punishment made possible by paying more for sins, also allows for the complete abandonment of all punishment theory, if the one who is caught is a special person. Like, a special Politician.

[Hobbes' Choice]

That's because Trump hasn't built a wall to keep them out yet.

Fact is they are burdened with a range of flat taxes that bear no relation to their income.

The existence of sin taxes proves that sin in fact does exist.
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Does the existence of the Devil's Highway prove the existence of the Devil???
Or are you just a fucking moron?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Route_491

[Walker]

Nuh huh. You’re the moron. If you seek empirical evidence for your existence, just don’t pay your taxes.