Dontaskme wrote:Okay ken you are right and I am wrong.
Exactly the evidence I said would be provided.
I accept that, so now can we just agree to disagree with each other and lets call the whole thing off. [/quote]
Call what off exactly?
I NEVER agree to disagree. If something is wrong, then it IS wrong, and obviously, if something is right, then it IS right. I want to work with others to uncover and REVEAL the Truth.
The Truth here is dontaskme says I can not know something. I say I can know and already do know.
If you are going to accuse me of something, then back it up or back off.
The difference between the 'you' and the 'I' is 'I' can back up what I say. And, I am going to challenge what i think is wrong.
Dontaskme wrote:In other words for christ sake please stop talking to me.
If you want me to stop talking to you, then all you have to do is just admit and just say that "
just maybe I can know".
I do not like any person putting any one down, including themselves. All people are born intelligent enough to learn, understand and reason anything, including who they are and who I am, that is until they become stupid and unintelligent through beliefs and fears.
This can and will be proven, in which, what you are believing will be totally dis-proven. I know this because I know I can do it. I will admit I may be wrong here, but that will only come out when I am challenged. Not just because some one believes it.
Dontaskme wrote: I've already awakened to truth, I do not have to seek your approval of that.
And I thought I make huge statements.
You say something like that and not expect to get challenged. I do not think you have really awakened that much at all.
If dontaskme has already awakened to truth, then why does dontaskme not clarify them self?
Why do you not want to be challenged?
The little and wrong truth you have "awakened" to is that you are unable to answer questions because of the logic you use, e.g., words can never lead to understanding.
If you were already awakened, then you would already KNOW who/what 'you' are and who/what I am IS. But by your unresponsiveness and when you do respond your dismissive responses like "We can never know" certainly shows to Me that you are more dead asleep, than most people are, than you are to have been awakened.
How could and why would a person who says, "I've already awakened to truth", not like to show others how they could be awakened also?
Is this just like religious people who say they know the answer but when asked for clarification say things like "There are some things we are not meant to know". The more you keep talking the more this is getting ridiculous.
You start of here in this response saying ken is right and dontaskme is wrong. A fairly stupid thing to say especially when you have not challenged me at all yet, and just as stupidly because none of us believe that, now do we? Then you go on to say lets agree to disagree and call this whole thing off. What do you want to call off? The fact that you say things, which I find not necessarily true, and when I test you on them you feel something. Is that why you want to call "this whole thing" off? Then the worst part is after saying all that is that you still believe that you are an awakened one to the truth. Would you like me to "walk" away now and leave this as though it is the Truth?
Dontaskme wrote: How would you ever know that I haven't awakened to truth?
Easily, by challenging you with very simple questions. I will then be able to tell by your responses if you have really been awakened or not.
And the answer to that is obviously clear.
Dontaskme wrote: are you me?...
Certainly not. I will never be you, but you can be-come (like) Me, if you really want to.
I will also suggest here that I actually do know 'you' better than you know 'you'. After all I am the one saying I do know who/what 'you' are, whereas, you say you can not know this.
Dontaskme wrote:don't ask me anything else or talk to me anymore.
You say something like you are the awakened one to truth, and then say "dontaskme" anything else. Really?
dontaskme is certainly living up to its name sake.
By saying that you are inviting me more and more.
Dontaskme wrote: If you do reply again then that will only prove to me what an absolute disrespectful idiot you are.
Well I have replied so then, to dontaskme, I have proven that I am an absolute disrespectful idiot. How that could logically follow soundly and validly only dontaskme knows.
Dontaskme wrote:''if people remain open, then I am able to show not just how you are able to find the answers that will lead to you living in peace and harmony''
PS..Wanting peace and harmony is why you suffer.
Who says I am "wanting" peace and harmony?
And, what exactly is it you suggest that I am suffering from?
Dontaskme wrote: You are a very angry person, it comes out clearly in your writing. And you are seeking for love. It's pitiful.
Name one piece of my writing where I have shown i am a very angry person. I think someone is looking at themselves here. But then again the word 'you' was used so I acknowledge what is written is right. What has come out clearly here is actually very obvious now, and actually supports what I was thinking previously.
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Also, as you so often say what appears is only an illusion so I will readily admit this time dontaskme is right. What appears "clearly" to dontaskme in my writings is absolutely not true, thus an illusion. An illusionary trick I have pulled over those eyes.
All I seek is loyalty (honestly) and openness, with voluntary enthusiasm. Hey you are right again. I wonder if you can see what I actually want to come out and clearly wrote this time. Can you see what come out in my writing this time?
Dontaskme wrote:Life doesn't demand love, peace, harmony, happiness and bliss, because it's never experienced lack of peace,disharmony, unhappiness, rejection, or ever been at war with itself.
Partly correct, only all of 'you' have experienced that, including ken.
But more correct is humans are a part of Life, so Life has, through humans, experienced the lack of those things, which unsettled equilibrium for a very minor relative short period. But this was necessary though, because of how the brain works, and now like I said a few posts back I/Life is going to show you how 'you', every person, can live together in peace and harmony with every One.