vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑
Sat May 20, 2017 9:25 am
American 'spelling'. Constantly singing the praises of America. Clearly a native English speaker. Uses babble-speak expertly to put even Walker to shame.
Recall that we have digressed from your point:
The US is to blame for the rise of radical islam
To which I replied that Wahhabism began in the early 1700s, but America in 1776, therefore America couldn't be the cause of radical Islam. I added that it would benefit Islamic countries if the West would lead and assist.
To that you replied that Islamic society had been stable if not for the interference of the West.
To which I relied that the Ottomans, and almost all modern Muslim states are being supported by the West. I further suggested that a psychological complex or cognitive distortion is making it impossible to grant that America or the West have amazing merits and much to offer the Islamic world. That lead to this digression on being willing to acknowledge the achievement of America.
Your above quoted reply (May 20, 2017 3:25 pm) is "genetic fallacy" unless my race, religion, or citizenship are somehow relevant to the amazing achievements of America? To boot, "babble speak" is not objective description, it is an interpretation; and I'm sorry, but I don't know who "Walker" is.
You had been reply to this:
Can you think of a more objective way to say what you're wanting to express than using the word "evil" which is a cognitive distortion called "labeling"? Are you advising the US totally disarm at a national level, or what is your suggestion?
What I'm contending is that in the process of cognitive distortion, the ability to assess objectively is being lost.
(1) I'd like for you to agree that some of the accomplishments of America are pretty amazing, like the Panama Canal, the Measles Vaccine, and the lunar landing. That isn't to say that non-Americans weren't also involved in those accomplishments, or that America didn't also do bad things like spending vast amounts on war machines instead of hospitals and orphans.
(2) I would also like you to make your complaint in an objective way and be specific, because the word "evil" isn't objective, its a label.
(3) I would finally like you to propose a doable alternative to spending funds on "nuclear weapons" which you had criticized below. Are you suggesting all nuclear weapons should be decommissioned, or a reduction, or more economical delivery systems like B-52 bombers instead of the more costly B2 bomber? Can you give some examples of where those funds would be better spent?