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Is the mind the same as the body? What is consciousness? Can machines have it?

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Post by Bill Wiltrack » Sun May 07, 2017 10:09 pm

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We don't have the future.


We have now; What is inside of now.






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Post by Bill Wiltrack » Sun May 07, 2017 10:10 pm

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...and all the words fade away; Inside of now...





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Post by vegetariantaxidermy » Sun May 07, 2017 11:43 pm

Why the 'of' in the middle?

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Post by Bill Wiltrack » Sun May 07, 2017 11:47 pm

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inside now. Now.



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Post by surreptitious57 » Mon May 08, 2017 12:23 am


Is now a physical space or an abstract concept or a state of mind or a combination of these


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Post by Bill Wiltrack » Mon May 08, 2017 12:41 am

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I don't think that now can be conceived by the intellect so...I would lean towards an abstract concept and a state of mind.

In general Now refers to the present.



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Post by surreptitious57 » Mon May 08, 2017 3:48 am

As now refers to the present then it can most definitely be conceived by the intellect as a specific point in spacetime
But it can not be an abstract concept less it is conceived by the intellect for that is where all concepts originate from

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Post by Dontaskme » Mon May 08, 2017 12:29 pm

Bill Wiltrack wrote:.




We don't have the future.


We have now; What is inside of now.






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Now is One Everything and Nothing Simultaneously.

To be inside now would imply there is an outside. . now is indivisible. There is no inbetween now and now.

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Post by Bill Wiltrack » Mon May 08, 2017 2:12 pm

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All of the responses here are GREAT. When we approach an aspect of time we breach what we consider the fourth dimension for human beings.

At that point everything is objective. This is where, I believe, our state of being becomes our authoritative point of reference.





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Post by daramantus » Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:28 am

Dontaskme wrote:
Mon May 08, 2017 12:29 pm
̶N̶o̶w̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶
O̶n̶e̶ ̶
E̶v̶e̶r̶y̶t̶h̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶
a̶n̶d̶ ̶N̶o̶t̶h̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶
S̶i̶m̶u̶l̶t̶a̶n̶e̶o̶u̶s̶l̶y̶.̶
None of this makes sense, you're affirming concepts that are distinct of other concepts and their own meanings, mixing up and distorting their meanings and making up a word salad jibble jabble babble.

true meanings of the words:
Now = at the present time or moment.
One = having the value of 1. —used to refer to a single person or thing. —used before a noun to indicate that someone or something is part of a group of similar people or things.
Everything = all the things of a group or class.
Nothing = not anything; no single thing. having no prospect of progress; of no value. not at all.
(Since space is not physical, and it's not something, could be seen as nothing too.. but that doesn't mean that all non-physical aspects,etc ..of the universe are "nothing"
Dontaskme wrote:
Mon May 08, 2017 12:29 pm
To be inside now would imply there is an outside. now is ̶i̶n̶d̶i̶v̶i̶s̶i̶b̶l̶e̶. ̶T̶h̶e̶r̶e̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶n̶o̶ ̶i̶n̶b̶e̶t̶w̶e̶e̶n̶ ̶n̶o̶w̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶n̶o̶w̶.
now = the present time, it's not a substance, it's not an object.
To be inside home, means you are inside your home, not outside it, if you are in front of my house and you can't see me, that means I'm inside my home, not ouside it. Outside/Inside works pretty well and their definitions works pretty well, does your own theory have any use in describing reality?
Inbetween now and then, it's 'you' having your moment. a moment would be a very brief period of time. between now, and before, you can use your memory to understand the 'inbetween' and prove to yourself that it does exist MOMENTS are divisible. 'time' itself is not indivisible, you can know it's divisibility by moments. past, present, future......BEFORE. NOW. AFTER.

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Post by Impenitent » Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:09 am

"we" don't have anything

-Imp

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Post by Dontaskme » Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:30 pm

Remember “you” (figure of speech only) are not the “I-thought”, you are that which is aware of the “I-thought” and everything else.. “You” are here now, as always, unlimited by form, changeless. (Ultimately, you cannot be identified by any label.)

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In essence,you don’t have any thing you are every thing which is not a thing. 🙊🙉🙈

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Post by gaffo » Sun Dec 17, 2017 5:25 am

Bill Wiltrack wrote:
Mon May 08, 2017 2:12 pm
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All of the responses here are GREAT. When we approach an aspect of time we breach what we consider the fourth dimension for human beings.

At that point everything is objective. This is where, I believe, our state of being becomes our authoritative point of reference.





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kinda ingnored your psychobable.........but posted to affirm how kewl your vid/that cat is in your post.

carry on, gave me a laugh.

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Post by Viveka » Sun Dec 17, 2017 6:24 am

Impenitent wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:09 am
"we" don't have anything

-Imp
But I thought we had something?! :oops:

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