Jean-Dominique Bauby & The Hell We Exist In

[Harbal]

Oh, you thought that was your pain...tut tut tut..time to undo the lie and find out the truth of you.

I doubt if even you know what this means but I'm damn sure nobody else does.

[Lacewing]

There are eternal truths???

No, there are no eternal truths.

Then what is it that you think you are talking about? Ultimate truth? What is there to "know"... except what we make up?

[Dontaskme]

There are eternal truths???

No, there are no eternal truths.

Then what is it that you think you are talking about? Ultimate truth? What is there to "know"... except what we make up?

Any thing known is fiction, pure conjecture..not Absolute

[Obvious Leo]

Any thing known is fiction, pure conjecture..not Absolute

This is it? This is your epiphany? In Australia we get deeper wisdom free with every box of cornflakes.

[Dontaskme]

True knowledge exists in knowing that you know nothing.

[Bill Wiltrack]

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THAT is beautiful.



I thank you for staying around a while. We need you here.


Thank you for an extremely insightful and articulate post within my thread. I am honored.





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[Obvious Leo]

Knowledge informs illusory reality. Wisdom understands reality as illusory.

This is nonsense. Reality is not illusory but rather the way in which we interpret it within our own consciousness is a cognitive construct of our own making, which is NOT the same thing as illusory.

You also seem to be conflating two entirely different concepts here by equating consciousness with Awareness. Well over 99% of our cognitive activity operates beneath the level of our conscious awareness because awareness is defined as an observation of our own consciousness and not the consciousness itself. Thus I broadly agree with your definition of the Self as a fictitious entity because it is physically impossible for any observer to observe anything at all until after it no longer exists in the form in which it is being observed. Consciousness is a process and a process is a sequence of events, thus to suggest that we can only observe an event after it has already occurred is a straightforward statement of the bloody obvious. Furthermore an observation of Self requires the physical existence of an entity to be aware of but it does not require such an entity to have any defined ontological structure. In other words the Self is a moving target.

[Harbal]

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THAT is beautiful.



I thank you for staying around a while. We need you here.


Thank you for an extremely insightful and articulate post within my thread. I am honored.

By the way, Why don't you come over to my place at the weekend. We could frolic naked in my back yard and resonate to each other's thoughts.


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[Obvious Leo]

Just when I thought the world couldn't get any scarier.

[Dontaskme]

Thank you for an extremely insightful and articulate post within my thread. I am honored.

It is a privilege to share wisdom of the highest quality with such a distinguished gentleman as yourself sir.
I Thank you for your genorosity, kindness, and mutual respect.

[Harbal]

Just when I thought the world couldn't get any scarier.

There's something very unsavoury unfolding here, Leo, and I'm worried sick that when it eventually reaches it's natural conclusion I'm going to somehow become aware of what it is.

[Lacewing]

There's something very unsavoury unfolding here, Leo, and I'm worried sick that when it eventually reaches it's natural conclusion I'm going to somehow become aware of what it is.

Oh my god... you have me laughing so hard with this and the backyard frolicking... my sides are hurting.

[Dontaskme]

True knowledge exists in knowing that you know nothing.

[Obvious Leo]

Knowledge informs illusory reality. Wisdom understands reality as illusory.

This is nonsense. Reality is not illusory but rather the way in which we interpret it within our own consciousness is a cognitive construct of our own making, which is NOT the same thing as illusory.

You don't have a consciousness. Consciousness has you. Reality is an illusion since it relies on the interpretation of it to make it a reality. Then of course the interpretation is never what it is. As understanding evolves, human understands that illusory does not mean the real in daily life does not exist. Evolved understanding indicates by logic and reasoning that the perceived real in daily life is made up of atoms, and atoms being light, it means that the real in daily life, which is believed to exist has to exist as an illusion of light and cannot have a real existence.

You might do better in a philosophy forum if you first took the trouble to read some philosophy. A bit of science wouldn't hurt either.

[Dontaskme]

True knowledge exists in knowing that you know nothing.