~ Tingling Doing Philosophy ~

Is the mind the same as the body? What is consciousness? Can machines have it?

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At this point in my life, rightly or wrongly, I practice philosophy in a sanctuary that most people would recognize as a gym.

I push myself physically to a fickle breaking point that I am either able to achieve or not.

Usually I am on an elliptical machine with my eyes closed chasing down random thoughts to clear the space inside of me. Where, if that happens, I experience some form of heightened consciousness.




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Often, if things are going well, I feel a strange tingling on each side of my brain.


I think it is my temporal lobes.

...weird. I'm actually feeling it now as I write about it.


The tingling isn't the focus of my doing philosophy but is a strange side effect of sometimes doing philosophy.



Anyone else ever feel this?





Any ideas on why I'm feeling this?






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Bill Wiltrack wrote:At this point in my life, rightly or wrongly, I practice philosophy in a sanctuary that most people would recognize as a gym.
So that's why we don't see any here.
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That's the nicest thing you've ever said to me, Poor Bill.
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Bill Wiltrack wrote: The tingling isn't the focus of my doing philosophy but is a strange side effect of sometimes doing philosophy.

Anyone else ever feel this?
Actually, once upon a time, I had a painful feeling, because a spirit asked me "Why did you wrote this ?" - maybe about a strong opinion.

I effectively felt as a "half-headache of tense", so a brief migraine.

It fortunately ended when I answered "God told me to do so".
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NielsBohr wrote:Actually, once upon a time, I had a painful feeling, because a spirit asked me "Why did you wrote this ?" - maybe about a strong opinion.

I effectively felt as a "half-headache of tense", so a brief migraine.

It fortunately ended when I answered "God told me to do so".
All of this might be true, NielsBohr, but can you not imagine alternative explanations that account for your feelings just as well? Us atheists can.
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Could be a mild case of temporal lobe epilepsy Niels Bhor, which can cause even life long atheists to have religious experiences visions lasting sometimes 10 minutes or longer.

Or you could just be mad as a nail. :P

There's a documentary called God on the Brain on yahoo:

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/god-on-the-brain/

You can make people feel spiritual experiences by stimulating the brain.

Don't worry it wont challenge your faith, it could be genetics, or it could be God put them there, although that would raise questions about free will. :)
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Bill Wiltrack wrote:.I think it is my temporal lobes. ...weird. I'm actually feeling it now as I write about it. The tingling isn't the focus of my doing philosophy but is a strange side effect of sometimes doing philosophy.Anyone else ever feel this? Any ideas on why I'm feeling this?

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I think you are doing it wrong. If you're doing meditation, you are supposed to relax all of your nerves instead of actually putting pressure on them, as meditation is supposed to be done in a much smoother way if you want to obtain a 'higher consciousness'. That, and you're supposed to let all of your thoughts flow and try not to bother them. They may be pleasant, but it's part of making your consciousness clearer.
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Pleasantness may be an after effect but I am not looking for pleasantness.


I look to confront. To confront myself.



To confront the narration that I normally accept as me.


Not saying that this is right or the correct way to do this exercise but that is the approach I think of.



The tingling happens if I am doing this right. Sometimes it doesn't happen.





I realize I am throwing mud on the ceiling...




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Bill Wiltrack wrote: Pleasantness may be an after effect but I am not looking for pleasantness.

I look to confront. To confront myself.

To confront the narration that I normally accept as me.

Not saying that this is right or the correct way to do this exercise but that is the approach I think of.

The tingling happens if I am doing this right. Sometimes it doesn't happen.
I don't think that there's really a 'narration' inside of you, but just the probably the fact that you have an overactive mind. Just try and calm yourself - perhaps maybe listen to some binaural beats on the internet so that you may know that true self-consciousness is, because it seems that you are overdoing it. Just an advice.
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