There ain't nobody in a body

Is the mind the same as the body? What is consciousness? Can machines have it?

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Re: There ain't nobody in a body

Post by Sir-Sister-of-Suck » Tue Aug 22, 2017 7:48 am

I always thought that racism is so incredibly dumb because it's often conceived, at least partially, from this false idea that we genetically differ so much. In reality, we would barely, if at all, tell the genome of Barrack Obama apart from a white skinhead in kentucky. Almost every single difference we see between general nationalities can be chalked up to culture, but I can't say the same thing for men and women. To me, its a spectacle of science that we don't typically see as much conflict between men and women as we do with race. Or at least the same arguments aren't being raised. I don't know, maybe I'm largely incorrect on this assessment.

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Re: There ain't nobody in a body

Post by Dontaskme » Tue Aug 22, 2017 7:49 am

thedoc wrote:
Tue Aug 22, 2017 2:29 am
Dontaskme wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:06 pm
No one ever gave the wild beasts or the little cute bunny rabbits a funeral. 🐇🦍🐅⚰️
We used to raise rabbits for meat, does it count if you clean them and sell the carcass for meat?
Yes, that counts, that's okay...when Elvis decides to leave the building, there's nothing no one can do about that, but wave goodbye to itself.

Elvis has probably just popped out to go and find and live in a better hotel, maybe a 5* one this time.

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Re: There ain't nobody in a body

Post by Dontaskme » Tue Aug 22, 2017 7:59 am

Sir-Sister-of-Suck wrote:
Tue Aug 22, 2017 7:48 am
I always thought that racism is so incredibly dumb
That's because thought thinking it is something when it's not is incredibly dumb, because thoughts can't think. There is only thought. But thought does not like being alone in the universe, it's boring, so it likes to invent lots of imaginary friends to keep it company in it's imaginary party.

Why was the skeleton always unhappy?
Because he had no body to hang out with. :lol:

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Re: There ain't nobody in a body

Post by Arising_uk » Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:48 am

Dontaskme wrote:Well true enough, there is no body here. ...
They are skeletons not bodies. The musculoskeletal system system is a subsystem of a body.
... intelligent energy ...
Make-believe.
... who we are here ...
Given what you say how are you allowed to use all these words?

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Re: There ain't nobody in a body

Post by Dontaskme » Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:27 am

Arising_uk wrote:
Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:48 am
Dontaskme wrote:Well true enough, there is no body here. ...
They are skeletons not bodies. The musculoskeletal system system is a subsystem of a body.
... intelligent energy ...
Make-believe.
... who we are here ...
Given what you say how are you allowed to use all these words?
Thanks for the knowledge.

Without information about my self...I could not have existed.

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Re: There ain't nobody in a body

Post by Arising_uk » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:05 am

:lol:

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Re: There ain't nobody in a body

Post by Dontaskme » Wed Aug 23, 2017 3:10 pm

Greta wrote:
Tue Aug 22, 2017 1:53 am

DAM, it seems that every day you start a new thread to say the same thing - nothing is here, nothing exists, nothing is real, etc. Why repeat yourself so much when it's clear that mere repetition in lieu of strong explanations are a turn-off?

What is the point of continually asserting that nothing is real? It seems to me that you are comforting yourself because regular life sucks - just that your grapes are not sour but illusory, with the implication being that they are worthless. No offence, that's just how it looks to me.

Many of us, however, consider this life is FAR from illusory or worthless. The distance between noumena and perception may be enormous, but the intrinsic reality of things we observe simply cannot be questioned, only considered with caution due to the amount of things we can't perceive. Even if, as the boffins say, the total sum of the universe's energy is zero (with positive and negative energy balancing each other out), this notion does not apply locally because (thankfully) it's not completely homogeneous.

If you want to excite your mind with skeletons, may I suggest comparing the skeletal frameworks of different species. The subtle and marked variances are fascinating and speak volumes about the species' lifestyles. It definitely gives and impression that we chordates are very much cut from the same cloth, so to speak - variants of one thing. Each has a skull, spine and, aside from snakes, four major limbs with incredible variations yet each major structure is recognisable in others.
Also...Just so you know, because I think you maybe forgetting what is real and unreal here....the I AM is real.

It's all the illusory stuff such as comments like ''comforting yourself because regular life sucks'' and ''If you want to excite your mind'' and ''worthless'' it is comments like this that are not real. The I Am in which they appear IS

DAM, likes to talk about consciousness and the contents of consciousness. Sorry if you find that distasteful. We don't always get what we want, and we hate it when we don't get what we want.

Don't tell Dam how to think, or what to think, I can watch my own thoughts and decide for myself what's real and what isn't thank you very much.

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Re: There ain't nobody in a body

Post by Greta » Thu Aug 24, 2017 12:28 am

DAM, I did not respond to your previous reply because I could see you had not taken my post in the spirit in which it was intended and felt that getting you to understand was too large a hill to climb. For that reason I have nothing to say to your last post except that you have taken offence when none was intended.

I'd apologise except I don't think I did anything wrong aside from extreme bluntness (which is usual for this forum anyway). My question was a reasonable one and obviously not due to distaste of the subject matter.

I just figured that, if you are going to keep saying the same thing every day, why start new threads? Why not start a single mega thread - 50+ pages - "Nothing is real" or whatever floats your boat, and keep bumping it like Nick does? Many piecemeal threads looks to me like a strategy less likely to make a splash because it's so scattered rather than focused.

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Re: There ain't nobody in a body

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Re: There ain't nobody in a body

Post by osgart » Wed Sep 13, 2017 5:31 am

simple enough, I see the body as a concept formed. that don't leave much room for mindlessly coming about.

everything about the body is for to do something, and then it does it.

I'm amazed how many people avoid this evidential reasoning.

they use physical gradualism, and chaos as instruments of creation, and take conceptualization right out of the way.

I think a child realizes they are made by someone and than by futility of ever knowing that intelligence, they concoct other possibilities and complicate the matter.

instead of reasoning that this intelligent mind has no way of communicating to us, or that it must defend itself against us, or the intelligence could be completely alien to our intelligence and have fierce, covert motivations, they reason away it's existence as child's play.

but the simple and obvious could just be evidence that we are created.

I read ervin laszlo, 'The Immortal Mind', and in it he talks about a non physical field called the akashic field. he says that the universe is simultaneously connected by a field that lies outside of spacetime.

I'm thinking that this field is a vast jungle of spirituality; wild, primitive, and fierce, and extremely intelligent, in an alien way.

what created us, may not be benevolent whatsoever.

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Re: There ain't nobody in a body

Post by Dubious » Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:32 am

...especially when the brain is missing or somebody kicked it into a coma.

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