Philosophy Now Forum

vegetariantaxidermy, it’s really not about Krauss, or PC, or even philosophy for you, is it? I don’t know if it is all just an online game you are playing or if there is something deep and disturbing that you are struggling with. In either case, I am not interested being involved. Despite your stead...

Vegetariantaxidermy: 'Noise'? Everything you don't agree with is 'noise'? Only what is irrelevant to the issue. You said nothing about what he was actually accused of. Whether or not the accusations were PC hysteria cannot be determined without reference to those allegations. Some, none, or all of t...

What has become apparent is that we have become hypersensitive and have cultivated a moral fragility. What has not yet become apparent to many is that this cuts both ways. The extremism of PC is being matched by a counter PC extremism. Both sides react emotionally without thinking clearly. vegetaria...

Nick: A person inwardly turning towards the light has the potential to receive human understanding … It is not receiving human understanding. It is seeing things as they are. There is a big difference. See book seven of the Republic on the use of mathematics for the intellect to compel the soul towa...

Once again you have provided support for my initial claims. You have difficulty separating the truth of the allegations against him from the response to those allegations. You have difficulty accepting institutional and organizational ethical norms. If how you act here is indicative of how you act i...

Nick: Leaving the cave means becoming consciously able to receive from above and give to below. That may be what it means to you but it is certainly not what it meant for Plato. You have a habit of mixing your own beliefs in with what others have said, as if they are the ones who have said it. It is...

The argument is actually quite simple: a)If someone is accused of something the truth of the accusation in independent of whatever your views on PC or feminism or anything else happen to be. b)The truth of the allegations does not change if it is against “intellectuals, scientists and creative”. c)B...

Nick: My advantage over you is my willingness to admit the human condition as it exists in me. If you are truly willing to admit the human condition as it exists in you then you would cease talking as if you know what is seen when one has transcended that condition. If you are in the cave then you c...

Nick: This is a good description of the contrast between F4s perspective and mine. You do not have a perspective from outside the cave. You do not falsely attribute quotes because you are unaccustomed to the darkness after dwelling in the light. One thing you don't do in the secular world is to look...

It is evident that what it really at issue for you is not something that can be addressed through rational discussion. I could make a snide remark but it is very possible the the problem is not something to be joked about.

I can’t say I had not been warned.

Vegetariantaxidermy:

You haven't produced a reasoned argument.

But I have. It is Socratic. I have demonstrated exactly what I claimed. All that you have provided is sloganeering about “PC” and lazy thinking. In response to my questioning your claims you have been unable to defend them.

And there you have it. Resorting to personal insults and non sequiturs when the ability to defend a reasoned argument fail.

Reflex: Who said what is irrelevant. It’s the meaning that’s important. Except when who said it is supposed to have meaning or significance, intended to add weight to the statement. Nick knows this, otherwise he would not have attributed it to Plato. He would have simply made the statement that man ...

Vegetariantaxidermy: Different 'FROM' you illiterate yank. Different ‘THAN’ is an accepted American English standard. Its usage does not make one illiterate. The rules of grammar are not invariant, they change with time and place. Some sources consider the different to be one of style rather than gr...

Vegetariantaxidermy: Btw, not a single one of the salemwitchhysteria allegations remotely resembles genuine rape, assault or abuse. There's nothing about rape there. I’ll ask you again, how much further would it have had to go before it “remotely resembles genuine rape”? The allegation is that he pu...