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Moyo wrote:Moyo wrote:
What is the opposite of 1;

1. the number of primes less than a given natural number.

is it not

2. the number of natural numbers below a given prime number.

I post this for the third time.

Symmetry group" is a technical term in math. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symmetry_group Is that what you mean? Or do you mean something different? Thats what i mean. Moyo wrote: that contains other statements that have the same symmetry like your version of the opposite of the pi function. &...

Per-ceive is a concept...how else could you have conceived of it. Ok tell me this; One thing...and one thing only.... tell me one thing that is not a concept. only one rule dont conceive of it. Tell me , do you think i'm being unreasonable to ask you to not conceive of it first. And so beleive that ...

Scott Mayers wrote:This is because while our concepts are derived from the senses

Senses are concepts...how else would you be able to conceive of them. If they are concepts with a real part. Then real part is allso a concept how else...

Moyo wrote: Its recursive. Then it'd have to have a base state and presumably this state is not in the 'mind' of anything? "Base state" is a concept. You take is Armstrongs i see. No idea? Who is s/he? A mathematical philosopher? If so I'd be interested in their full-name so I can read ab...

Scott Mayers wrote:So, yes, you CAN conceive of something that is NOT a concept!

I think we can move no further because of this dishonesty. "A conception thats not a conception. WOW!!!

Not to confuse you more but before you reply the statements 1 and 2 above belong to a symmetry group that contains other statements that have the same symmetry like your version of the opposite of the pi function. There are others, but understand that they all contain the same symmetric information....

Scott Mayer

lets attack one point at a time:

Can you conceive of something that is not a concept.


"Yes or no" answer please...i want to lead you somewhere...you can then have the freedom to explain yourself after ward.

by Arising_uk » Mon Oct 19, 2015 5:39 pm Moyo wrote:Gods. You mean 'God's' 'God''? That you are a pantheist idealist? Its recursive. Moyo wrote:The axiom of identity is what gives things ..well..identity. ... Not quite, what gives identity is..well...being a thing or state of affair. Read the under...

Please tell me what the opposite of this is 1. the number of primes less than a given natural number. is it not 2. the number of natural numbers below a given prime number. 2 can be expresseed this way F(p) = p -1. I.e. if you plugin a prime ..the value for the number of naturals below it will alway...

Instead of sighing, why don't you simply state the correct definition of the prime counting function? But i did..here... Moyo wrote: wtf wrote:I don't know what you mean by this. Pi(5) = 3 but that doesn't give any information on what the specific primes are. Are you sure you are aware of what the ...

Oh never mind...*sigh*

Scott Mayers wrote: It is not meant to mean that what we 'conceive' itself IS the thing

The term the thing is a concept..
perhaps....

If reality appears to exist then its an appearance.
Are you saying reality doesnt apparently exist?

#see_what_i_mean_about_2yr_olds *sigh*.

The term physical is a concept.
Perhaps the concept physical reffers to something concrete.

The term something concrete is a concept.
Perhaps the concept something concrete reffers to something objectively real.

The term something objectively real is a concept.
perhaps.....

You may be interpreting "identity The axiom of identity is what gives things ..well..identity. I have found a flaw in it. Please read the whole thread before you respond because i dont have the energy to retype everything. Do you beleive you can conceive of something that is not a concept ? Pl...