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by surreptitious57
Wed Jul 03, 2019 8:50 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Insane Denial Of Conscious Experience
Replies: 388
Views: 71126

Re: Insane Denial Of Conscious Experience

If phenomena that is not conceptual and has always existed independent of mind ... then what is this mind thingy thats popped up recently ? What is it now and why does it exist now but didnt exist before but can exist now ? Mind is simply another level of complexity that has evolved over time but i...
by surreptitious57
Wed Jul 03, 2019 8:40 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Insane Denial Of Conscious Experience
Replies: 388
Views: 71126

Re: Insane Denial Of Conscious Experience

So does phenomena that is mind independent requiring no mind include the human being thing ? Obviously not because human minds themselves are not mind independent phenomena and nor can they ever be A mind may be perceived as phenomena by another mind but it is still mind independent regardless of p...
by surreptitious57
Wed Jul 03, 2019 7:56 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Insane Denial Of Conscious Experience
Replies: 388
Views: 71126

Re: Insane Denial Of Conscious Experience

The eternal NOW is constantly moving to the future while always experiencing the present and constantly moving from the past and is doing all of these at exactly the same time and in absolute perfect harmony An eternal PRESENT with no FUTURE or PAST would in reality be entirely timeless with nothing...
by surreptitious57
Wed Jul 03, 2019 7:35 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Insane Denial Of Conscious Experience
Replies: 388
Views: 71126

Re: Insane Denial Of Conscious Experience

Cant have a concept without a conceiver they have to exist in the exact same instantaneous moment NOW Therefore ( knower / knowing / known ) are ultimately ONE entire whole totality ... phenomena appearing NOW and only NOW The one entire totality exists across ALL of time even if it is only the NOW...
by surreptitious57
Wed Jul 03, 2019 7:23 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Insane Denial Of Conscious Experience
Replies: 388
Views: 71126

Re: Insane Denial Of Conscious Experience

is it not better to say that pre dated knowledge without a knower can only ever exist in a knower that is now ? otherwise what the heck knows there was no knower present in the pre dated knowledge known now ... ? Does it make sense to announce knowledge that was absent of a knower of that knowledge...
by surreptitious57
Wed Jul 03, 2019 5:53 pm
Forum: Aesthetics
Topic: Why do people watch porn?
Replies: 51
Views: 24417

Re: Why do people watch porn?


That is a very excellent and short but articulate answer to the question of why men feel the need to watch porn
by surreptitious57
Wed Jul 03, 2019 9:54 am
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Ultimate Reality
Replies: 99
Views: 18501

Re: Ultimate Reality

The mind is not a new phenomenon . It has always existed . Mind needed for any physical change Physical change was occurring for billions of years long before minds ever existed Is your claim that they have always existed a scientific one or a philosophical one If it is a scientific one then presen...
by surreptitious57
Wed Jul 03, 2019 9:40 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Your Essential Thing
Replies: 33
Views: 5758

Re: Your Essential Thing

Is being detached another way of saying really having no or little interest ? It can be depending on the actual subject matter but I can also be detached even if the subject matter is interesting to me I try to avoid becoming emotional in online discourse preferring a more logical approach instead ...
by surreptitious57
Wed Jul 03, 2019 6:42 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Your Essential Thing
Replies: 33
Views: 5758

Re: Your Essential Thing

how closed up human beings are which is what actually stops IT from coming out just look at the writings throughout this forum The lack of back and forth clarifying questions to each other shows just how little interest there is in what is said by each person Not asking clarifying questions all the...
by surreptitious57
Wed Jul 03, 2019 4:40 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Insane Denial Of Conscious Experience
Replies: 388
Views: 71126

Re: Insane Denial Of Conscious Experience

What if LIGHT was just another word for MIND or CONSCIOUSNESS That would be rather confusing given that light is a mind independent phenomenon The electromagnetic spectrum has nothing to do with either mind or consciousness The MIND or CONSCIOUSNESS that you are specifically referring to here is no...
by surreptitious57
Wed Jul 03, 2019 4:15 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Insane Denial Of Conscious Experience
Replies: 388
Views: 71126

Re: Insane Denial Of Conscious Experience

I know you have used this independent from mind idea many times and I still dont get what you mean by that idea Can you explain in coherent detail what you mean by the knowledge of something is independent of the mind .... thanks Actual knowledge of something cannot ever be mind independent but wha...
by surreptitious57
Wed Jul 03, 2019 3:53 am
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Insane Denial Of Conscious Experience
Replies: 388
Views: 71126

Re: Insane Denial Of Conscious Experience

The electromagnetic spectrum is a mind independent phenomenon not a mind dependent one so therefore the colour something is depends on its frequency within the spectrum not what the mind imagines it to be But how can the ES phenomena be independent of mind ? Electromagnetism as a phenomena has exis...
by surreptitious57
Tue Jul 02, 2019 2:45 am
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Ultimate Reality
Replies: 99
Views: 18501

Re: Ultimate Reality

bahman wrote:
Reality cannot exist without mind . That is mind which experiences and causes reality
Reality is not mind dependent as indeed for most of known existence there were no minds
Reality has always existed whereas minds by comparison are a relatively new phenomenon
by surreptitious57
Tue Jul 02, 2019 2:33 am
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: Ultimate Reality
Replies: 99
Views: 18501

Re: Ultimate Reality

Conscious experience is an unnecessary distinction and repetition of terms least you can point me to an unconscious experience Every single object has unconscious experience because existence and experience are merely different words to describe the same phenomenon So experience is not just limited...
by surreptitious57
Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:03 pm
Forum: Philosophy of Mind
Topic: Insane Denial Of Conscious Experience
Replies: 388
Views: 71126

Re: Insane Denial Of Conscious Experience

The electromagnetic spectrum is a mind independent phenomenon not a mind dependent one so therefore
the colour something is depends on its frequency within the spectrum not what the mind imagines it to be