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That doesn't really clarify anything. When did "clarity" become a relevant concern on matters of truth? I can't give you a precise date. :| It's true that the universe exists. That doesn't clarify anything either. We've already established that clarification isn't your thing. What is it s...

Moral values and attitudes aren't objective. Everything's objective. Everything that exists - exists. Even if it "only" exists in the heads of humans. This is the default position until humans invent the objective/subjective distinction, conceptually split everything into two and then and...

We don't have reluctance to kill members of our own species. We have reluctance to murder members of our own species. I have a reluctance to kill members of my own species, for any reason. Does that make me unusual? Killing in self-defence is perfectly fine. Been there. Done that. Having gained an ...

I am not talking about feelings here. I am talking about mechanics. Have you tried murdering somebody? I have. I had my gun in a child rapist's mouth. Tried to pull the trigger - my body wouldn't let me. There's something in my brain I have no control over. Most of the world's militaries know this ...

Since you are under no moral obligation to respond to my comments in a way that makes sense, I don't suppose I have any right to complain. :( What's confusing you? If murder is not objectively wrong then I can murder you If I want to. What's to stop me? Morality doesn't exist objectively. If murder...

I'm not sure that simply refraining from verbally abusing him in order to comply with your own sense of right and wrong could be looked on as imposing your way of life on him. Objectively, that's not for me to decide. Neither am I sure how your sense of right and wrong could be objective. :? Pretty...

My objective sense of right and wrong tells me that it's absolutely not OK to treat Peter Holmes the way I am treating him. Of course, I don't want to impose my way of life on him - that would be objectively wrong. I'm not sure that simply refraining from verbally abusing him in order to comply wit...

Are you saying that I am doing something objectively wrong to Peter Holmes even though Peter Holmes himself says otherwise? I was curious about the reason for it, not the rightness or wrongness of it. Who says there needs to be a reason? I was asking on the off chance that there might be a reason, ...

Skepdick wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 12:11 pm Are you saying that I am doing something objectively wrong to Peter Holmes even though Peter Holmes himself says otherwise?

I was curious about the reason for it, not the rightness or wrongness of it.

Skepdick wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 11:58 am
What do you mean? There's nothing objectively wrong with the way I am treating Peter Holmes.

I doubt that Peter Holmes' attitude towards the matter is as objective as yours.

Peter Holmes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 11:52 am
The penis is an unpleasant, intellectually challenged and self-confessed troll that doesn't like its inadequacy being exposed, its claims falsified, and its 'arguments' demolished. Hence the abuse.

I thought you must have killed his dog, or stolen his wife, to deserve that much animosity.

Skepdick wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 11:25 am Kant's idiocy is haunting you, Peter "Dumb Cunt" Holmes, to this very day!

I wonder what Peter Holmes did to you to earn such extreme hostility.

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:56 am
4. Therefore, morality is objective.

Moral values and attitudes aren't objective.

It is tempting to credit Jesus with a general change in attitude on the part of peoples of the Middle East toward each other. I wish I knew more about the history of the Far East and people's temperaments toward each other there around the time of Christ. But I don't. I suppose Jesus is not the fir...

Consider Major Barbara . Someone once told me that the Salvation Army are the only Christian institution that do anything useful to help those in need. It depends on what they need, of course; I don't think they fix you up with sex and drugs, but they will help if you want to get away from them.