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Not wanting to be robbed, raped, enslaved, killed, cheated, oppressed, denied access, excluded, abused or slighted are all subjective preferences, aren't they? 🤔 They are, but not only that. If that's all they are, then you have no right at all not to be robbed, raped, enslaved, killed, cheated, op...

...you are completely unable to show how objective morality exists, or even how it could possibly exist. There is no such thing as objective moral truth. What we're doing, at the moment is allowing for the sake of argument that what you say is true . So objective morality is out of the conversation...

Why would anyone want to be in a position to tell anyone what their moral position should be??? Because they don't want to be treated unjustly. They would prefer not to be robbed, raped, enslaved, or killed. Likewise, and more subtly, you also don't want to be cheated, oppressed, denied access, exc...

Unless I am obliged to tell others what to believe or think, it works just fine. If you live by yourself, in a cave, then you don't need morality at all...neither objective or subjective. And whatever you decide to do, you can just do. There can be, for you, no moral dimension to life, because nobo...

Why would anyone want to be in a position to tell anyone what their moral position should be??? Because they don't want to be treated unjustly. They would prefer not to be robbed, raped, enslaved, or killed. Likewise, and more subtly, you also don't want to be cheated, oppressed, denied access, exc...

...you are completely unable to show how objective morality exists, or even how it could possibly exist. There is no such thing as objective moral truth. What we're doing, at the moment is allowing for the sake of argument that what you say is true . So objective morality is out of the conversation...

How do you know how you currently interpret your Bible is right? I'm not sure how that question relates to Subjective Morality. Maybe you'll explain. Well, if as you claim morality is objective because your god says so, how do you know your feelings about what he says are objective? "Feelings?...

I’m a situational objectivist. That won't work. If it's "situational," then you're in no position to tell anybody about their "position," or what their moral "position" on it should be. Why would anyone want to be in a position to tell anyone what their moral position ...

I’m a situational objectivist. That won't work. If it's "situational," then you're in no position to tell anybody about their "position," or what their moral "position" on it should be. Unless I am obliged to tell others what to believe or think, it works just fine. If...

Of course I have a way of knowing. We all know that stealing is a moral issue, so if I have feelings about stealing, I know I have feelings about a moral issue. The thief has different feelings. How do we know, given Subjectivism, whose feelings are right? Well each thinks they are right, just like...

Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 12:39 am

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 12:32 amHow do we know, given Subjectivism, whose feelings are right?

How do you know how you currently interpret your Bible is right?

I'm not sure how that question relates to Subjective Morality. Maybe you'll explain.

Because if one person subjectively thinks that stealing is morally wrong and another person subjectively thinks stealing is morally right, there is no way to determine who is correct. Nicely and concisely put. So if one person objectively thinks that stealing is morally wrong, and another person su...

That doesn't answer the question. If my moral feelings motivate my actions, then my moral function is working, how can you deny the logic of that? Because you have no way of knowing if it's even "moral." Subjectivism can't reveal that to you. Of course I have a way of knowing. We all know...

My argument is that Subjectivism doesn't work at all, If a person subjectively thinks that stealing is morally wrong, and that disinclines him from stealing, why do you describe that as not working? I think your idea of working morality is the sort that would enable you, for example, to tell others...

If a person subjectively thinks that stealing is morally wrong, and that disinclines him from stealing, why do you describe that as not working? Yes. Because he has no idea why he has that twinge. And if it's just a twinge, he has no justification to trust it at all...anymore than a twinge of hunge...