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by Conde Lucanor
Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:44 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Secular Spirituality
Replies: 156
Views: 2706

Re: Secular Spirituality

I'd love to know what's spiritual about Sagan or Tyson especially the latter. What have they said or done which makes them spiritual? Tyson keeps proclaiming that humans are made of star stuff but left out the Ebola virus, cancer cells and suchlike. Everything existing in the universe, animate or i...
by Conde Lucanor
Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:16 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Secular Spirituality
Replies: 156
Views: 2706

Re: Secular Spirituality

... Carl Sagan, Neil DeGrasse ... You are correct that people like Sagan and Tyson do embrace the weirdness of existence. I would consider each to be "spiritual", much more so than many who claim to be, and they are/were too open-minded to lock themselves into materialism. They never held ideologie...
by Conde Lucanor
Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:55 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Secular Spirituality
Replies: 156
Views: 2706

Re: Secular Spirituality

Why not just secularism? Why not just humanism? Because they are as boring at batshit, pardon my French, monsieur. But that doesn't say much, does it? I mean, human interests can be so diverse and anything can be thought to be boring or interesting, so that doesn't seem to be a valid criteria as to...
by Conde Lucanor
Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:09 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Secular Spirituality
Replies: 156
Views: 2706

Re: Secular Spirituality

If it doesn't mean anything then why did the notion resonate with some of us? There's a difference between hearing the echo of music and listening with precision the notes of the 2nd movement of Beethoven's Ninth. Maybe some people want a bit of what religion has but without the mythology? Maybe, i...
by Conde Lucanor
Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:49 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Secular Spirituality
Replies: 156
Views: 2706

Re: Secular Spirituality

Conde, what I did was provide my view about secular spirituality. What would you have me do? Provide someone else's view? In providing my own view, at odds with the OP, I was passively disagreeing with the accuracy of the Wiki article. Do you have a problem with that? It seems to me that MY particu...
by Conde Lucanor
Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:15 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Secular Spirituality
Replies: 156
Views: 2706

Re: Secular Spirituality

That's evidently false, because I've made no associations between any statement of yours or anyone else in this forum and new age or pseudoscience. Again, I've been very specific about the Wikipedia article. Nonsense! You are forcing me to go through the whole copy-paste annoyance because you are b...
by Conde Lucanor
Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:50 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Secular Spirituality
Replies: 156
Views: 2706

Re: Secular Spirituality

Greta, as Marjoram_blues seems to have noticed (since I've stated it repeatedly) I have chosen to focus on the Wikipedia article. And I've just stated above that I'm not saying what Greta believes or should believe, but yet you come back to complain about it. I know my English is not top notch, but...
by Conde Lucanor
Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:44 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Secular Spirituality
Replies: 156
Views: 2706

Re: Secular Spirituality

Unfortunately, CL chooses to focus on certain aspects of the wiki content, despite being corrected. It is fine to be challenged - in the spirit of philosophy. However, this type of continual misrepresentation is not. As noted from the confessions of some participants, they all have done the same, i...
by Conde Lucanor
Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:41 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Secular Spirituality
Replies: 156
Views: 2706

Re: Secular Spirituality

Conde, I have made clear what I see as secular spirituality. I would rather not have the Wiki article attributed to me - I happen to have my own mind which means that my version of secular spirituality does not coincide with Wikipedia's. Why are you attributing things I haven't said to me? Why try ...
by Conde Lucanor
Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:47 am
Forum: Metaphysics
Topic: REFUTE - my argument that a 'God' is more likely to exist.
Replies: 48
Views: 1165

Re: REFUTE - my argument that a 'God' is more likely to exist.

Nice retreat: implying that all that nonsense was just a joke. Retreat? I'm waiting for this 'ace' of yours? You just don't worry...yet. I'm not flashing that card, but it's already in my hand. Ooo did I appear worried? What is it gov, let us all gave a gander? "If you don't like how the table is s...
by Conde Lucanor
Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:32 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Secular Spirituality
Replies: 156
Views: 2706

Re: Secular Spirituality

Marj and I could not have made it more clear that secular spirituality need have nothing whatsoever to do with pseudoscience. Your response above is very weak, displaying mechanistic thinking and a general lack of comprehension. There is not much point wasting time unless you can lift your game. Ar...
by Conde Lucanor
Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:13 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Secular Spirituality
Replies: 156
Views: 2706

Re: Secular Spirituality

There is no sense in which I started this discussion with a view to 'endorse a [particular] type of secularism'. There seems to be an instinct to attack any interest in this aspect of the human condition with false accusations. There is no attack on materialism as suggested. Once you plant the seed...
by Conde Lucanor
Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:05 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Secular Spirituality
Replies: 156
Views: 2706

Re: Secular Spirituality

Are Richard Dawkins, Carl Sagan, Neil deGrasse Tyson, Max Tegmark and Roger Penrose new agers? If so, then I agree with you that New Age romanticism and secular spirituality are synonymous. Seriously, why paint with such a broad brush? I thought you'd be more rigorous. At least the 3 first names, w...
by Conde Lucanor
Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:21 am
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Secular Spirituality
Replies: 156
Views: 2706

Re: Secular Spirituality

Whether it was tone, style or whatever that did not allow me to embrace the content of the article, I don't put in doubt that the content does reflect what "secular spirituality"is all about. I guess that means that as a secularist, humanist and atheist, I cannot endorse this "secular spirituality"...
by Conde Lucanor
Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:52 pm
Forum: General Philosophical Discussion
Topic: Secular Spirituality
Replies: 156
Views: 2706

Re: Secular Spirituality

I think you could be right. I might look into this further to try and improve my own writing. All the better to relay information and relate to others. At times, to be concise it may sound abrupt. At others, it could reflect emotional state ! However, it is tone according to wiki. 'Two styles, clos...